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Kristen Stocking's avatar

GM. Have you written, or do you have, an opinion on the allegations against Dr. Fullmich regarding misuse/personal use of $1.2(?)Million of Committee funds? I’m trying to decipher all of the comments, including those of his close partners on the Committee.

Thank you!

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

He said, she said.

If Dr. Fullmich paid himself 1.2m for 2 years of work, then good for him, he deserves it.

The content of his work is unimpeachable and that is what matters.

The gossip only damages our cause.

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Marta Staszak's avatar

For all it's worth coming from me, I more or less agree with you.

I know some have the best intentions in heart but they're becoming

very militant in their demand of unblemished conduct over the lifetime

sort of thing. We can't afford to create an echo chamber to keep

ourselves happy in our self-righteousness. We have to keep "an eye

on the ball" of course, but to have a realistic and pragmatic view of the situation as well. I don't know what happened there but, it is not helping and I wonder why it couldn't have been resolved without

the public spat. But, then again we're all human after all.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

And why should people work for free?

Everyone deserves to be paid. While 1.2m seems like a lot of money over 2 years for most, it is important to appreciate that Fullmich is a top attorney and this sum, if true, represents a pay cut.

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Sonja's avatar

The organization did not approve his salary.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

That is the allegation.

Is it not his org?

I do not know the exact terms, do you? Have you seen their contract and terms?

Otherwise, it is he said, she said and everyone is for some reason believing the allegations at face value and taking sides.

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Sonja's avatar

Yes, it is his organization, and he could have spent smaller amounts of money without asking for permission, but the board has to approve expenses of thousands of dollars. If there was a contract, he would have shown it when he responded to accusations.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Did his accusers show this contract?

Why does anyone care about this?

Do you find any issue with his work?

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Sonja's avatar

They did not show a contract because probably there was no contract. There were plenty issues with his work. He never filed any pleading with any court. He said courts were corrupt, but it would be useful to see how courts would react. They could have filed a case in each of EU countries and non-EU Eruopean countries. In the United States, there were some legal victories, such as the Supreme Court's opinion that the federal government vaccine mandate was too broad to be constitutional. Then there was a decision on mask wearing on flights. Right now, there is a case in Louisiana.

Perfectly bilingual and charismatic, Reiner did a great job. but that was a job of a journalist and not a partner in a top law firm. It is unfortunate that Viviane went publicly with the accusations, which also damaged her reputations, as she is the one who signed off annual financial reports. Reiner rudely called her a girl with a curl in her hair, puffy sleeves, and a lawyer without a law firm. That statement is outrageous, but it may also be true. A more experienced person would know that she has nothing to gain from exposing their internal problem. I do hope they overcome the conflict. Their contribution has been enormous.

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Kristen Stocking's avatar

If that’s correct, then he should pay it back. Period.

Not saying any of these experts should work for free, but much of their efforts focus around lack of integrity, so he should have negotiated a better arrangement.

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Sonja's avatar

Many borrow from their clients' funds they are managing, but if they do not return it, they can go to jail.

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