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Justin's avatar

I didn't see it that way at all. I saw it as "Here's a fabulous new vaccine delivery system, because fat-encapsulation allows it to go everywhere, and it can be re-programmed so quickly, rather than the years taken to otherwise create a vaccine." That's revolutionary in terms of anti-virus delivery systems. (That's the biologist in him speaking.) But Robert Malone spoke of it having real negative impacts, particularly in bypassing the body's normal immunological response pathways - he of the "nuclear bomb in your body" analogy.

Can it be abused horribly? YES! Imagine you turn your back and someone's swapped in a toxic poison.

Wait. They've already done that.

But they can do it again and again, very easily. I think they're losing the battle on anybody taking needles in arms anymore in any scale. They'll have to find alternatives via air/food/water deliver systems.

But here's the kicker... The people setting this stuff off, have to ensure they're not killed themselves by whatever delivery system they choose. Or not in proximity to those who have been "infected". And yes, I'm aware our own (US) government has experimented a few times on aerosol delivery systems for infectious diseases. (subway tunnels, a weeklong(?) experiment in SF - possibly a hallucinogenic?, and others. There are documents that explain the best place to put a bioweapon - on choke points such as escalators, bus entry/exit points, etc. Where people HAVE to go through.

But back to your point, Yes, he took a more rabid stance early on, but he's mentioned a number of times that he and Heather have changed their minds, and even explained how that happened. From a biologist point of view, yes, locking everyone down hard DOES make sense because you DO burn through the infection, build up antibodies and it doesn't spread. But that's impossible to do. "Yo, military folks. Just.. just take the next 6 weeks off." For developing silicon wafers, you bake them at high temps, depositing layers for a few weeks. Who would provide chemicals for water filtration, and food for everyone? Toilet paper deliveries are ESSENTIAL!

Yes, his initial point was reactionary, strictly biological and completely impractical.

But he's changed his mind, quite openly. And for some reason that's a sin?

We need to get past this issue people have (those "gotcha moments").

We make mistakes. We learn, we change. We adapt.

This adherence to perfection and conformity is killing us collectively.

We're human.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

And if Viruses don't exist, all viral vaccines are completely unnecessary. We've been scammed. According to the old Guinea-Bissau Study, only the Bacterial ones are of ANY VALUE. The rest are sloppily made, and do more net harm than good. Bye bye 1.25 Billion dollar market for FARMA.

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Justin's avatar

I'm sure viruses were found at some point that led to the vaccine industry, but admittedly I don't have all the answers about that. I wholeheartedly agree that Big Phfarma shot themselves in the foot big time with all this, and they deserve to be punished - financially, reputationally, legally and any other adverb that someone can come up with. :-)

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Under Vesuvius's avatar

Bret, of all people should have known the problems with mRNA vaccines in general, well before this.

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Claude Zachary's avatar

RFK was talking about the mRNA animal trials in spring 2020, none of the trials in mRNA every made it to humans until the covid ones in Jan2020. The official story is using a "Sequencing" of the "virus" that was received from the Chinese Government, the Moderna people said that got that sequence and had the Covid vaxx ready for trials in 6 days. Amazing how much moderna, pfizer, the FDA, CDC, The US military, congress, white house, every major religious leader, even major corporation, every show in Hollywood and Bret Weinstein all trusted the Chinese Government that much.

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Under Vesuvius's avatar

ALso, the Chinese sequence first published from the Pangolin virus was bogus and not even related to what we can harvest from COVID. And yet they still believed the later ones.

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Under Vesuvius's avatar

Hes compromised (I doubt it) or a useful idiot. So blinded to which is friend and whichis enemy that he makes the exact opposite call. I suspect he will be folded into the New Synthesis forming in anticipation of stealing Trumps fire, if Trump wins; you can just feed Bret information and he will panic and spurt out a "scholarly response". At times he will take a unique, genuine, contrarian view, which keeps his street cred alive.

you see this alot with the exlibs, like Lindsay (actually still a lib); they can parse the treees and miss the forest because forests are bad, or ALex Jones believes in forests etc.

Whenever he speaks with NRx or religious he does this distancing plus kumbayah thing that is creepy and bigoted underneath; "i didnt USUALLy used to have conversations with XYZ....but (insert dire contingency here) etc." I can barely stand it.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

But AL! There's NO WAY the gov could already KNOW that a Marburg epidemic is on the way sometime on the near future. There's just no way.

oops.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/12/09/2020-26972/notice-of-declaration-under-the-public-readiness-and-emergency-preparedness-act-for-countermeasures

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AL's avatar

You're right! But I am so captured by my government's omnipotence and know they are just here to help, nay, save! me. So why would I ever question this?! It's kind of like how Bill Gates knew covid was coming. He's so smart, I wish I were that smart.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

yup. It's like McCullough doing the 180 on mRNA tech. "Well it may be a great delivery platform in the near future. " -- something to this effect. 100% bs

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AL's avatar

Very subtle---keeping the idea alive because the one thing that simply cannot happen is that people start thinking vaccines in general are poison and have been a human experiment/control mechanism since day one.

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Justin's avatar

Well, is it or isn't it? (the mRNA technology)

The lipid encapsulation IS a great delivery mechanism. For good and for bad. It's not the encapsulation that is bad, it's the payload that makes the difference.

And what the intent of the payload is for.

At this point, I'm hoping there's enough liability protection for me so that anybody doing things for bad reasons will be sued out of existence.

That's where *I'd* spend a lot of time looking is in incremental or fast-moving legislation that absolves drug companies of penalties in non-EUA use cases.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

But they can kill 1 company with suing, and rehire Most the Engineers and Execs and start a new company. Repeat. Moderna, still hasn't produced 1 Approved product non-EUA for public consumption.

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Justin's avatar

I would hope that investors would recognize the track record of the execs to give them a wide berth and not reward such folks. And engineers can also choose whether they want to live with themselves for contributing to products that kill/maim. I think there are more good people than bad. And it gets increasingly hard to have bad triumph when good people won't have anything to do with them.

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Dan V's avatar

Romans 3:12.....there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

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Justin's avatar

I don't want to come across as offensive in saying this, but you're doing a lot of projecting here about Bret's intent. He admits he made mistakes in following the narrative. I don't believe in hard lockdowns, but can see how someone with some knowledge about the life cycle of viral infections might think it's appropriate - I wasn't accepting of it, just throwing out a hypothesis.

I agree that there were many who spoke up early. Where are they now? Did they get tired and let others carry the torch? Were they threatened in their livelihood? Are they dead? Where are they? I honestly can't remember who they are, because my own analysis of data as I came across it led me to believe it was a scam. I also was educated several decades ago, and even my own brain knew that masks don't stop viruses. That's basic (to me) knowledge. And totally undercut the purposes for which it was purported to be in place for.

To me, my earliest recollection is Pierre Kory, and he's associated with FLCCC.net now, and still making appearances.

Many have joined the battle, and that doesn't negate the contributions of the OG's. ;-)

Bret's been fighting this for 2 years, so I'm not sure of the basis for 4 years. Keep in mind that censorship was in full-blown effect. Everyone was (and in some cases still are) tapdancing around the word, substituting other words, etc. just to stay on youtube and other platforms.

For each and every person who you suspect might be wrong, I say this: Nobody can take their integrity away. They have to give/throw it away.

What we do with it is our business. But we also need to be willing to forgive someone who's making an honest effort to rectify their wrongs. For them, it's a long haul effort to regain trust/credibility. That's part of the consequences for prior actions.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

Psyops are complicated. Review a Critical Analysis of Kory here: (Don't look for Heroes/Saviors) https://charleswright1.substack.com/p/why-was-dr-pierre-kory-made-president

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Justin's avatar

Well, I look at it like the CIA info presented to the Church Committee in congress. The CIA gave the committee what the CIA wanted them to see.

And that's what we're dealing with. But I refuse to believe that any one person (or any persons) can eliminate the truth completely. Sure, it can obfuscate the players and motives, but truth is truth. And while we can see outside the matrix, we should resist all avenues/efforts made to stuff us into it.

You're right, psyops are complicated. As long as the desired outcome is achieved, it doesn't really matter how it's done and to a lesser degree who is destroyed. Unless they're useful for other psyops, or to let them know their back is covered when things get rough.

As long as there's plausible deniability for anything, we're not going to get to the truth in that direction. People can change allegiances for all kinds of reasons, and as long as they're afraid of the disclosure of the alliance, disclosure of embarrassing information, or death of themselves or other loved ones, we're going to keep guessing.

All these dark games. Isn't the simple truth and honesty a much more desireable way to conduct ourselves?

Oh the tangled webs we weave, when we first seek to deceive.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

Good Comment brother.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

Also, we can play 6 Degrees of separation from Peter Thiel. Here it takes 2 Degree. Bret Weinstein -> Eric Weinstein -> Peter. For the Intel Connection to Companies and Silicon (I call it Silly-Con) Valley, please review RFK jr.'s book "Real Anthony Fauci," 2021. Although the book leaves out a lot of key info, still calls covy a Pandemic (it's not), Whitwashes some key players. it gives you a decent picture. Read the last Chapter "Germ Games" (about 45 pages) and you'd be better up to speed on the Intel side of things. I don't have any more time, but good luck.

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Justin's avatar

I'm about 4 degrees of separation from someone in Bill Gates' financial world. My wife tells me to NOT get involved with political/biologic stuff with this person. I have to leave the room, because I'm dying to ask tons of questions, but I also don't want to jeopardize their job. They're very intelligent, and I presume they're doing things honestly without a lot of knowledge of some of the darker areas attributed to Gates. (I don't know them at all. Just have put pieces together from conversations over the years.)

I'm sure Gates compartmentalizes a lot of areas too. Loose lips sink ships.

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Claude Zachary's avatar

Yes, none of the covid measure ever existed in any reality or by any unbribed scientist. They were only simulated in Event 201 in Sept 2019.

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