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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

So are Jessica Rose and Tess Laurie.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Please, explain. I understand what you are saying, but what's the point if you are only talking to people who do?

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Forgot to include Peter McCullough in that list. Ask any of them about reverse transcriptase. https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/the-novelty-of-mrna-viral-vaccines

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

The list is endless. In fact, it's a lot more challenge to find names not to be included. :)

Of course, anyone pushing mRNA is a suspect:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-problem-with-mrna

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

This is why I unsubscribed to you. Your logic goes like this:

You: Cut me a piece of cheese from the moon.

Me: I cannot do that.

You: See! I told you space was fake.

You're chasing your own tail. You do you though.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Straw man argument. Glad you are not around anymore.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Not straw man at all. You are deflecting. Your logic is way off and uninformed. Your conclusions are simply wrong.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

It was I who "Like"d both of your "comments."

In your free time, if you are a real person who hasn't been sold out, please, consider reading how trolls work. The following example goes a long way:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/intelligent-trolls-are-now-saying

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

And you are not addressing anything in specific, only create false analogies.

You surely are "informed."

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

What for?

It looks like a shill.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

"Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line." Alden et al. 2022 Curr Iss Mol Biol. I'm surprised that you don't recognise the mdpi html.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

They (along with Peter McCullough) are pushing the mRNA technology now 'subject to modification' and do not address the reverse transcriptase issue. They're trying to walk it back but I don't trust them. https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/the-novelty-of-mrna-viral-vaccines

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Yes, it occurred in vitro. Do you really want to leave it to chance that it doesn't occurr in vivo? https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73

None of them are talking about this, addressing this paper or any like it.

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PatriciaHenry's avatar

I saw this paper when it first came out. Believe it was discussed by many of the big names like Malone and McCollugh and not in a favorable light. I agree the mRNA platform regardless of payload is worrisome and beyond that incredibly hard to do at scale. I too get frustrated when people focus solely on the spike. LNPs are dangerous enough themselves. Grifters are ultimately going to grift and so discernment is required. But not everyone can be controlled opposition

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Dee's avatar

Hospitals and doctors are usually only good for acute injury. You got a broken bone, they can fix it. If you got a tumor blocking your biles, kidneys, you better get that fixed immediately.

However a lot of times chronic long term conditions are best addressed through eating healthy, non-processed foods. Also look into herbs and other edibles that grow in your own back yard to stay healthy.

Also when having a bacterial infection, then you may need an anti-biotic. And yes indeed sometimes viral (colds) can lead to a bacteria infection. A lot of people died these last couple of years because our doctors, nurses, hospital betrayed us and refused to give the patient an anti-biotic saying it was a viral illness. Liar! May have started out that way, but it didn't stay that way. Yes anti-biotics can be abused and taken too many times when not needed, but I believe many people very much needed it these last couple of years and were denied it and as a result died. Also nebulizers/nebulizer meds were denied. WTH?

People got to start using common sense. Injecting ourselves and our kids with heavy metal loaded shots for health or changing up the MRNA sounds like a nutty idea to me.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

I don't think everyone is controlled per se. I think some people are just weary of playing 'freedom fighter' and long for their old lives which include comfy university life. As part of that they will publish papers and will happily self-censor to reattain their former prestige. They have probably had a few years without publishing much and need to catch up, or pivot in order to 'save science.' In other words, they aren't the real deal and don't see how serious this is.

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