I don't care what you were born as. How am I a Nazi? What did I say to make you think I am a Nazi? Is pointing out the simple fact that most Bolsheviks were Zionists and Marxists make me a Nazi? How is Israel a legitimate homeland? By what basis?
I don't care what you were born as. How am I a Nazi? What did I say to make you think I am a Nazi? Is pointing out the simple fact that most Bolsheviks were Zionists and Marxists make me a Nazi? How is Israel a legitimate homeland? By what basis?
Invoking Jews as somehow the reason for the Bolshevik Revolution is akin to blaming white people for this psyop as funded by American and European interests.
So Jews, whites, Americans and Europeans are all evil I guess according to your opinions.
It is a historical fact that Jews were very prominent in the Bolshevik Revolution. Marx was Jewish and most Communists in the early 1900's were Jewish.
Far more people were killed in the Russia Holocaust than the Jewish Holocaust in WWII.
Are you saying that is not the case? By what basis?
What psyop are you referring to?
The POINT here is that Zionists have used food scarcity to purge and kill off millions of people. The same is being done in Gaza Strip as I type this and I fear the same will be done here in the US.
Facts are facts. Pointing out a fact is not scapegoating. I never said ALL Jews and I certainly realize that there were many Jewish victims as well.
There is plenty of actual hard core evidence in the Kremlin records to prove this as fact. The financing and people in positions of control or influence were from this group and it's the same crew responsible for the CCP, who are literally a cancer on the world. And by the way, the good Jews will again be the victims, along with the rest of the world.
One of the best sources of information is researcher Juri Lina's "Under the Sign of the Scorpion". He went through the original Kremlin records to write this book, which is out of print and becoming a collectors item. Here are a few sample customer reviews from Amazon. I would suggest both of you get a copy of this book and then you can decide for yourself:
"An eye opener, If you want to know the identity of the forces ruling the earth this is the book, the earth is truely given into the hands of the wicked.."
"Looks like all the forces that occupied Russia in late 1917 are now in Washington D.C."
"As Juri quotes in his book the Chinese Philosopher Sun Tzu said,(490 B.C.) said,in "The Art of War","Everything which is valuable in the enemy's country must be knocked down and destroyed....Co-operate with the worst and vilest creatures.Provoke fights between the citizens...Degrade the traditions of the enemy and wipe out it's history.Infiltrate society with spies.
"You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. "We ARE intruders. We ARE disturbers. We ARE subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of your last great war but of nearly all your wars; not only of the Russian but of every other revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion, and frustration into your public life. We are still doing it. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours had we left you alone?
MARCUS ELI RAVAGE, JEW Century Magazine, January 1928."
A free version Uri's book can be found at [...]
How did they do it?
Questions,criticisms or speech against Jews was an automatic death sentence.
Infiltrated the churchs.
Infiltrated the schools and the govt.
Secret societies.
Dumbed down the schools.
Gained control of the press.
Took over the banks.
Instigated race and class warfare and unrest.
Confiscated all private property.
Released the prison population to terrorize the population.
Removed all the food. Killed all the animals.Took all the seed. Planned genocide. Millions of people starved.
Brought in foreign troops.
Financed by foreign Multi millionaires
Brought in 25,000 revolutionaries from the USA and other countries.
Put at least 12 million people in camps or made them slaves.
Murdered and tortured 60 million people.
Had the cooperation of many leaders in the west. (presidents,prime ministers)The media in the US was censored or influenced.The population of the US didn't have a clue
Nothing is at it seems.The rumors you have heard and scoffed at,poked fun at are true and are well documented in this book by Juri Lina. Juri details how the wealth of Russia was plundered by a few secretive, interconnected indivs. Gold,art,money was transferred to private bank acct. usually in foreign countries such as the USA.
The depravity detailed in this book will keep you nauseated. You'll experience what a deer in the headlights feels. No need to curl up with a scary fiction book. This will do the trick All of this will sound very familiar.Could it be a blueprint for the USA or the world?"
The Bolshevik leadership was about 90% jewish, and their revolution was supported by wealthy jews on Wall Street...Those are known facts...Whether they were Zionists isn't so clear....
You seem to be inverting reality. What historical documentation do you have to support that "the revolution was supported by wealthy jews on Wall Street"
The ignorance you spew is not surprising. Empirically, the claim that "most Bolsheviks were Zionists" does not hold up to historical scrutiny for several reasons:
Membership and Ideological Alignment: The Bolshevik Party, which led the Russian Revolution in 1917, consisted of a diverse group of revolutionaries from various ethnic and national backgrounds, including Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, Jews, and others. While Jews were indeed represented within the Bolshevik Party and played significant roles in the Russian Revolution and early Soviet government, they did not constitute the majority of the party's membership. The party was predominantly Slavic, reflecting the ethnic composition of the Russian Empire and later the Soviet Union.
Divergent Goals: Bolshevism and Zionism pursued fundamentally different objectives. Bolsheviks sought to dismantle the capitalist system and establish a communist society based on the principles of Marxism-Leninism, which emphasized class struggle, the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the abolition of national states in favor of a global communist society. Zionism, by contrast, was a nationalist movement focused on the establishment of a national homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine. The primary aim of Zionism was not related to the global class struggle or the abolition of capitalism but rather to national self-determination and the end of Jewish diaspora through the creation of a Jewish state.
Historical Context: During the early years of the Soviet Union, the government's relationship with Zionism was complex. Initially, the Soviet Union supported Jewish national aspirations insofar as they aligned with its anti-imperialist agenda, even voting in favor of the partition of Palestine in 1947, which led to the establishment of the State of Israel. However, this support was strategic rather than ideological. As the Cold War began and the Soviet Union's foreign policy interests evolved, it increasingly viewed Zionism and the State of Israel as aligned with Western imperialist powers, leading to a more antagonistic stance. Within the USSR, Zionist activities were suppressed, and Jewish cultural and religious expressions were discouraged, reflecting the broader Soviet policy against nationalism and religion.
In summary, while there were Jewish Bolsheviks and some of them might have sympathized with Zionist aspirations, the ideological foundations, objectives, and historical actions of Bolshevism and Zionism were markedly different. The claim that "most Bolsheviks were Zionists" is not supported by the empirical historical evidence regarding the composition of the Bolshevik movement or the ideological and political goals of Bolshevism and Zionism.
You should learn about history before making idiotic claims, "How is Israel a legitimate homeland? By what basis?"
1)Most of the Israeli land occupied by Jews today was purchased from the Ottoman Empire empire starting in the late 19th century. The land purchased was swampland and desert wasteland.
2)This land was skillfully reclaimed in effect a homesteading operation. Bought and paid for by the Jewish National Fund in the early twentieth century.
3) The British in 1920 legally mandated Palestine as a Jewish homeland and in fact the majority of Jews at tht time were not immigrants but Jews who's ancestrsal routes went back generations, the Ottoman Empire consensus records of 1896 show that that the majority of inhabitants in Jerusalem were Jewish.
4) THe UN in 1947 declared a two State solution that the Jews accepted and the Arabs did not and immediately attacked the legal State of Israel.
You never answered my question. Why am I a Nazi? Instead you cut/paste some long-winded cookie-cutter answer about how I am an ignorant fool. My best answer to you is by a man that was imprisoned for most of his life in the Soviet Gulag...he would know more than you or I about what happened in Russia.
“We cannot state that all Jews are Bolsheviks. But without Jews, there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew, nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood maddened Jewish terrorists have murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.”
— Alexander Solschenizyn
If I am ignorant, you are a hypocrite.
In all that you wrote, you never mentioned, not even once, the current genocide against the Palestinians being perpetrated by Zionists. The death toll is horrendous and hospitals are being targeted. Food is not allowed in at some check points. The land purchased was not swampland and desert wasteland. There were Palestinians living there and farming the land and they were systematically burned out of their homes and killed and herded up to live elsewhere.
So, all the protestations about how what I wrote is all lies, is unraveled by what is happening right now. AND the US is giving weapons and money to the Zionists! We are complicit in this genocide that Zionists in the US are pushing. So yes I am worried about this weapon of food scarcity being turned against the US at some later date.
His ad hominem is certainly overblown and unfortunate re: Nazi, but, more importantly, he cogently answered your main and exceedingly specious argument, and, as such, you have been sufficiently proven to be dead wrong.
I hope you can appreciate his correct historical context, and maybe you will in the future refrain from making such specious claims which are anything but historically accurate.
"the current genocide against the Palestinians being perpetrated by Zionists."
1) The Hamas in their charter call for the extermination of al lJews. The fact that they use civilians as shields is to further their goal of depicting a countries act of self defense as a genocide.
You mindlessly spew Hamas propaganda.
Marx by the way although born into a Jewish family his father, Heinrich Marx, originally Jewish but converted to Lutheranism before Karl's birth, largely due to the anti-Semitic laws and restrictions that limited the professional and social opportunities available to Jews at the time. Thus, Karl Marx was baptized and raised in a Protestant Christian household. Despite his Jewish ancestry, Marx was not religious and became a critic of all forms of organized religion, famously describing religion as the "opium of the people" in his critique of the societal and psychological functions of religion in capitalist societies.
The Zionism isn't clear at all, but the jewish makeup of the Bolsheviks, and their hatred of the Christian middle class, whom they robbed and murdered by the millions, is very clear...
I don't care what you were born as. How am I a Nazi? What did I say to make you think I am a Nazi? Is pointing out the simple fact that most Bolsheviks were Zionists and Marxists make me a Nazi? How is Israel a legitimate homeland? By what basis?
Invoking Jews as somehow the reason for the Bolshevik Revolution is akin to blaming white people for this psyop as funded by American and European interests.
So Jews, whites, Americans and Europeans are all evil I guess according to your opinions.
“They” and (((them))) are always scapegoated.
It is a historical fact that Jews were very prominent in the Bolshevik Revolution. Marx was Jewish and most Communists in the early 1900's were Jewish.
Far more people were killed in the Russia Holocaust than the Jewish Holocaust in WWII.
Are you saying that is not the case? By what basis?
What psyop are you referring to?
The POINT here is that Zionists have used food scarcity to purge and kill off millions of people. The same is being done in Gaza Strip as I type this and I fear the same will be done here in the US.
Facts are facts. Pointing out a fact is not scapegoating. I never said ALL Jews and I certainly realize that there were many Jewish victims as well.
So you pointed out that white people, Russians, Americans and Europeans are all guilty.
Or is it mostly just (((them))) and "them?"
Your question is not clear. How are the 60+ million Russians killed by the Bolsheviks guilty? What is "them?"
There is plenty of actual hard core evidence in the Kremlin records to prove this as fact. The financing and people in positions of control or influence were from this group and it's the same crew responsible for the CCP, who are literally a cancer on the world. And by the way, the good Jews will again be the victims, along with the rest of the world.
One of the best sources of information is researcher Juri Lina's "Under the Sign of the Scorpion". He went through the original Kremlin records to write this book, which is out of print and becoming a collectors item. Here are a few sample customer reviews from Amazon. I would suggest both of you get a copy of this book and then you can decide for yourself:
"An eye opener, If you want to know the identity of the forces ruling the earth this is the book, the earth is truely given into the hands of the wicked.."
"Looks like all the forces that occupied Russia in late 1917 are now in Washington D.C."
"As Juri quotes in his book the Chinese Philosopher Sun Tzu said,(490 B.C.) said,in "The Art of War","Everything which is valuable in the enemy's country must be knocked down and destroyed....Co-operate with the worst and vilest creatures.Provoke fights between the citizens...Degrade the traditions of the enemy and wipe out it's history.Infiltrate society with spies.
"You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. "We ARE intruders. We ARE disturbers. We ARE subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of your last great war but of nearly all your wars; not only of the Russian but of every other revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion, and frustration into your public life. We are still doing it. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours had we left you alone?
MARCUS ELI RAVAGE, JEW Century Magazine, January 1928."
A free version Uri's book can be found at [...]
How did they do it?
Questions,criticisms or speech against Jews was an automatic death sentence.
Infiltrated the churchs.
Infiltrated the schools and the govt.
Secret societies.
Dumbed down the schools.
Gained control of the press.
Took over the banks.
Instigated race and class warfare and unrest.
Confiscated all private property.
Released the prison population to terrorize the population.
Removed all the food. Killed all the animals.Took all the seed. Planned genocide. Millions of people starved.
Brought in foreign troops.
Financed by foreign Multi millionaires
Brought in 25,000 revolutionaries from the USA and other countries.
Put at least 12 million people in camps or made them slaves.
Murdered and tortured 60 million people.
Had the cooperation of many leaders in the west. (presidents,prime ministers)The media in the US was censored or influenced.The population of the US didn't have a clue
Nothing is at it seems.The rumors you have heard and scoffed at,poked fun at are true and are well documented in this book by Juri Lina. Juri details how the wealth of Russia was plundered by a few secretive, interconnected indivs. Gold,art,money was transferred to private bank acct. usually in foreign countries such as the USA.
The depravity detailed in this book will keep you nauseated. You'll experience what a deer in the headlights feels. No need to curl up with a scary fiction book. This will do the trick All of this will sound very familiar.Could it be a blueprint for the USA or the world?"
The Bolshevik leadership was about 90% jewish, and their revolution was supported by wealthy jews on Wall Street...Those are known facts...Whether they were Zionists isn't so clear....
Perhaps you could provide us with references to support this assertion. Page 364 and 365 of this 1000 page book support the opposite where in fact about 10 percent of the Bolshevick leadership was Jewish. https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Revolution-Richard-Pipes/dp/0679736603
You seem to be inverting reality. What historical documentation do you have to support that "the revolution was supported by wealthy jews on Wall Street"
Matt0794
The ignorance you spew is not surprising. Empirically, the claim that "most Bolsheviks were Zionists" does not hold up to historical scrutiny for several reasons:
Membership and Ideological Alignment: The Bolshevik Party, which led the Russian Revolution in 1917, consisted of a diverse group of revolutionaries from various ethnic and national backgrounds, including Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, Jews, and others. While Jews were indeed represented within the Bolshevik Party and played significant roles in the Russian Revolution and early Soviet government, they did not constitute the majority of the party's membership. The party was predominantly Slavic, reflecting the ethnic composition of the Russian Empire and later the Soviet Union.
Divergent Goals: Bolshevism and Zionism pursued fundamentally different objectives. Bolsheviks sought to dismantle the capitalist system and establish a communist society based on the principles of Marxism-Leninism, which emphasized class struggle, the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the abolition of national states in favor of a global communist society. Zionism, by contrast, was a nationalist movement focused on the establishment of a national homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine. The primary aim of Zionism was not related to the global class struggle or the abolition of capitalism but rather to national self-determination and the end of Jewish diaspora through the creation of a Jewish state.
Historical Context: During the early years of the Soviet Union, the government's relationship with Zionism was complex. Initially, the Soviet Union supported Jewish national aspirations insofar as they aligned with its anti-imperialist agenda, even voting in favor of the partition of Palestine in 1947, which led to the establishment of the State of Israel. However, this support was strategic rather than ideological. As the Cold War began and the Soviet Union's foreign policy interests evolved, it increasingly viewed Zionism and the State of Israel as aligned with Western imperialist powers, leading to a more antagonistic stance. Within the USSR, Zionist activities were suppressed, and Jewish cultural and religious expressions were discouraged, reflecting the broader Soviet policy against nationalism and religion.
In summary, while there were Jewish Bolsheviks and some of them might have sympathized with Zionist aspirations, the ideological foundations, objectives, and historical actions of Bolshevism and Zionism were markedly different. The claim that "most Bolsheviks were Zionists" is not supported by the empirical historical evidence regarding the composition of the Bolshevik movement or the ideological and political goals of Bolshevism and Zionism.
You should learn about history before making idiotic claims, "How is Israel a legitimate homeland? By what basis?"
1)Most of the Israeli land occupied by Jews today was purchased from the Ottoman Empire empire starting in the late 19th century. The land purchased was swampland and desert wasteland.
2)This land was skillfully reclaimed in effect a homesteading operation. Bought and paid for by the Jewish National Fund in the early twentieth century.
3) The British in 1920 legally mandated Palestine as a Jewish homeland and in fact the majority of Jews at tht time were not immigrants but Jews who's ancestrsal routes went back generations, the Ottoman Empire consensus records of 1896 show that that the majority of inhabitants in Jerusalem were Jewish.
4) THe UN in 1947 declared a two State solution that the Jews accepted and the Arabs did not and immediately attacked the legal State of Israel.
You never answered my question. Why am I a Nazi? Instead you cut/paste some long-winded cookie-cutter answer about how I am an ignorant fool. My best answer to you is by a man that was imprisoned for most of his life in the Soviet Gulag...he would know more than you or I about what happened in Russia.
“We cannot state that all Jews are Bolsheviks. But without Jews, there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew, nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood maddened Jewish terrorists have murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.”
— Alexander Solschenizyn
If I am ignorant, you are a hypocrite.
In all that you wrote, you never mentioned, not even once, the current genocide against the Palestinians being perpetrated by Zionists. The death toll is horrendous and hospitals are being targeted. Food is not allowed in at some check points. The land purchased was not swampland and desert wasteland. There were Palestinians living there and farming the land and they were systematically burned out of their homes and killed and herded up to live elsewhere.
So, all the protestations about how what I wrote is all lies, is unraveled by what is happening right now. AND the US is giving weapons and money to the Zionists! We are complicit in this genocide that Zionists in the US are pushing. So yes I am worried about this weapon of food scarcity being turned against the US at some later date.
His ad hominem is certainly overblown and unfortunate re: Nazi, but, more importantly, he cogently answered your main and exceedingly specious argument, and, as such, you have been sufficiently proven to be dead wrong.
I hope you can appreciate his correct historical context, and maybe you will in the future refrain from making such specious claims which are anything but historically accurate.
I challenge you to tell me what I said that is historically inaccurate.
Marxism and Zionism have overlapping goals. Any good faith examination of the history of these ideologies shows that.
"the current genocide against the Palestinians being perpetrated by Zionists."
1) The Hamas in their charter call for the extermination of al lJews. The fact that they use civilians as shields is to further their goal of depicting a countries act of self defense as a genocide.
You mindlessly spew Hamas propaganda.
Marx by the way although born into a Jewish family his father, Heinrich Marx, originally Jewish but converted to Lutheranism before Karl's birth, largely due to the anti-Semitic laws and restrictions that limited the professional and social opportunities available to Jews at the time. Thus, Karl Marx was baptized and raised in a Protestant Christian household. Despite his Jewish ancestry, Marx was not religious and became a critic of all forms of organized religion, famously describing religion as the "opium of the people" in his critique of the societal and psychological functions of religion in capitalist societies.
And you mindlessly spew Zionist propaganda. I guess this is where we say any further conversation is pointless...
And everyone with COMMEN SENS knows that the HAMAS is the frankenstein creator of the Israeli state!!!!!!
The Zionism isn't clear at all, but the jewish makeup of the Bolsheviks, and their hatred of the Christian middle class, whom they robbed and murdered by the millions, is very clear...