I was even stupider. I knew WTC was an operation to get the Patriot act passed, I knew about the wholesale gathering of our data, and the CBDC's planned, and that Covid was one big psy op with the experimental jab for shits and giggles...but it took me a year after March 2020 to realize it was a global operation, and that we are already …
I was even stupider. I knew WTC was an operation to get the Patriot act passed, I knew about the wholesale gathering of our data, and the CBDC's planned, and that Covid was one big psy op with the experimental jab for shits and giggles...but it took me a year after March 2020 to realize it was a global operation, and that we are already under their rule. That our Congress has no power. They work for them. Blackmail and money do wonders.
Zev Zelenko said it, and I got kicked off of twitter for repeating it...that it is an easy decision to make Either you go along with us, and you get xxx amount in a Swiss bank account that no one knows about (money varies depending on whether its the President of a country or the reps etc.) OR, we kill your family.
THAT is what was done all over the Western Democracies, down to the least rep.
For the rest, they either go along to get along, or the INtelligence service in their countries blackmail them, or threaten to. All they have to do is threaten to download child porn on your computer, and you are toast.
“...but it took me a year after March 2020 to realize it was a global operation, and that we are already under their rule.” This doesn’t seem all that “stupid” to me, Duchess. I think that all of us who understand criminal conspiracies perpetrated by psychopaths -- whether the psychopathic (so-called) “elites” who constitute the ruling class or the lower class psychopaths who make up a percentage of the prison population -- still want to have hope for a better future for our adult children and our grandchildren and our great grandchildren. (I only have one grandchild.) That hope can manifest as the self-deception “I know things are really bad, but they can’t be really, really bad” or something mental like that.
You’re totally correct about blackmail. Investigative journalists who cannot be blackmailed are often murdered, with their deaths ruled as being suicides.
The future looks bleak, but I don’t put my trust or hope or faith in human political (or religious) leaders.
How about you? Do you have a psychologically healthy vision for the future of humanity?
I kinda of late am putting my trust in God...for I have none left for humanity. I am trying to make sure the young in my family have a bolt hole and a way to survive without enslavement...but they are much cleverer than I....I just want them to get out of the cities.
As far as a healthy view, no. I truly beleie the Constitution was the best document but we didn't interpret it strictly...first Congress gave the right to coin money to a cabal, then the income tax (not allowed) and then the general welfare clause...welfare did not mean WELFARE in that sense. I keep an old dictionary, as words meaning change. I do not beleive it is a living document except by amendment or Constitutional Convention. And I see the states have ceeded their rights to the fed.
I think the guy who wrote political Ponerology was right...we need to go back to the thirteen states, but of course, they would be large geographical regions as he points out, that have a lot in common including geography. And the states need to each be their own experiment...no fed except for maybe interhighway roads and defense.
Unless we can do this (and I doubt it, although when people wake up they may (but I don't hold out hope) that some seceed....and we start over. If we are lucky.
one problem with the Constitution is ambiguous wording in some passages. the lizards seize on that and interpret the phrases how they like. Another is there is no real punishment for not following the Constitution. Of course the Constitution would be subverted and destroyed because people. Power and wealth, psychopaths always get in control and soon the entire organization or government is run by psychopaths.
I’m the only one in my family who realizes the truth about the vast conspiracy to establish world government. Even when the subject is brought up, some family members believe that such a government would be benign.
I agree with you that understanding the legal definitions of the words in which the constitution was written is important, but I (unfortunately) believe that the constitutional republic is now dead. (Maybe it can be miraculously resurrected, but I doubt it.) I think that the pathocratic state is way too firmly rooted & entrenched.
Is it defeatist and fatalistic (and just plain wrong & stupid) to believe that it’s too late for humanity to save ourselves and that we need to look for the second coming of Christ? Maybe to some, but not to others. And in the meantime, there will be false messiahs and false prophets and fake saviors? Such a scenario makes sense to me.
People need to wake up! From the very beginning democracy/republics, are Luciferian constructs devised for the end we are seeing now. They are designed to devolve into tyranny, anarchy and annilation of humankind. And, our ONLY defence is GOD. St. Paul told us in Ephesians 6:12, "For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood (aka, humans); but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in high places." God has allowed this to happen because humans have abandoned Him. Only He can save us and NOT WE OURSELVES. Wake up, stupid and fooish people!
I would say first Lincoln abrogated the Constitution and set the citizens against each other in vicious horrible warfare that killed at least 600,000 Americans and maimed and paralyzed many thousands more and left many families fatherless.
This paved the way for more restrictions on Freedom than Mr. Lincoln levied, in due time, step by step through the decades til we have Julian Assange today .
John MacAfee who did the anti virus. They killed him. He said dont take these mrna vaccines. He said the us government with DOD biggest drug trafficker and human trafficker and jeffrey Epstein was connected to CIA and DOD
" Do you have a psychologically healthy vision for the future of humanity?"
Hah! I don't even have a healthy future vision for myself, and I'm in full, vigorous health and am as strong as a bull! And yet, even that much these days only seems a necessary but still woefully insufficient condition.
My vision? I’ll continue to get older until I eventually die. That’s fate and I’m okay with being a fatalist.
A vision for an existence after death? I’m unsure. Maybe the collection of our life’s lessons, stories/myths and experiences creates some form of psychic energy. This energy is drawn from the earth and from the breath. The Sanskrit word for breath is prāṇa.
What happens when one takes his/her last breath and the body decays into the earth or is reduced to ashes? Is this psychic energy destroyed? I don’t believe so. It merely changes form.
So then, how ought one live? Mindfully. Improve one’s mind. Live life experientially. Create a story that you can admire.
I don't deserve it, though I do appreciate your tolerance. This is a public forum and the conversation in the comments is open, of course, but I still feel it was impolite of me to have dropped in like I did. And in any case, as for the comment I made, there was no need for me to have been a damn fool about it.
I like your vision for the future and I would like for it to turn out that way. Somewhat like you, but not as gracefully as you, alas, I disbelieve in the persistence of the individual beyond death, neither as the same nor in some manner transformed, not even by enlightenment. I don't know this, of course, nor does anyone else, nevertheless it seems to me a futile conceit to believe one should deserve more than their allotted three-score and ten (having increased to four, it's now creeping back to three after all the shots).
"Maybe the collection of our life’s lessons, stories/myths and experiences creates some form of psychic energy. This energy is drawn from the earth and from the breath. The Sanskrit word for breath is prāṇa."
That seems similar, and yet different from another example of shared ancestral knowledge from deep time. Australia's indigenous peoples could traverse thousands of miles on foot, anywhere from Yolngu to Anangu, from Wangai to Muruwari tribal lands, all by the song lines. Singing the songs called up the features of the land by which they navigated the continent. All they required for any great journey was knowledge of lore, which they had, and time, which was unlimited. Then white fella arrived...
I also believe that the whole world would benefit immeasurably if our particularly restless, murderous and at the same time suicidal species would simply redirect more time and effort from action and into contemplation.
Thanks again. I value your way of thinking, and I'll look out for you further comments and writings.
I'm going to write something here and then delete it, as I don't want it on this thread.
Gary is bright and can be thoughtful.
He's very grounded here and present.
But what he says does not necessarily line up with how he is as a human. (for many complicated reasons)
You are not undeserving. We all have to do the work of ourselves. Apologizing at times (whether we are forgiven is something else) and looking at ourselves with clarity and honesty. Which can be extremely challenging.
You’re right. How I am “as a human” is not very grounded at times. Most of the time I feel -- not that feelings reflect reality -- messed up and insecure and neurotic (and worse).
is that true? history provides many examples. It's the price of actioning them that seems to get in the way. so then it's a matter of conviction, or courage.
I am ignorant of the history of pathocracies being overthrown. I suppose (mistakenly?) that the new bosses are similar to the old bosses, in terms of their psychopathic qualities. Too pessimistic?
perhaps too but also not unrealistic. there is an element of faith, of trusting humanity to be more than it has shown itself to be. Hope seems to be a critical component. It's hard to find it at times.
i'd say nearly all governments or societies are oriented to control or harvest the labour of the many to benefit a few. that is pathocentric. sure some may start with an apparent wider purview but the few always seem to wield undue influence and create or sneak in means to expand their power.
the rest can't be bothered, or aren't clear enough in their analysis of the situation, or are hoodwinked or bamboozled by the promise of ease and security, or frankly just don't go there as long as they are mostly comfortable with the arrangement.
and yes, the new bosses are always similar to the old bosses it appears. because the new bosses have been taught what works and they advantage themselves in the same ways the old bosses did. it may be a new group so to sell the "change" the control may take a step back, and there may be attempts to build a system that is less prone to breaking or being corrupted. until it is anyway.
utopia has a problem in that it is never reachable from here.
but the needs we seek to meet are not unclear. the will hasn't been sufficient it seems, or the ability isn't there. We are smart individually but often (too often it seems) behave abysmally in groups.
We also focus on relieving symptoms and not understanding and repairing the root causes. This leads to those who know this to pull our strings and yank our chains which leads to favorable outcomes for those with the power and desire to narrowly serve themselves and those like them.
That’s a forthright analysis. I read somewhere that critical analysis is the highest form of logic. And I also read that human logic is ultimately misleading. So many contradictions. So little time to resolve them.
I don't believe you have to go after the '8,000' at all. You just have to go after some of the order followers in order to scare the other order followers. Then the 8,000 (not sure how that number was arrived at) have no one to implement their evil plans. It's quite simple really and exactly what they do to us.
I was even stupider. I knew WTC was an operation to get the Patriot act passed, I knew about the wholesale gathering of our data, and the CBDC's planned, and that Covid was one big psy op with the experimental jab for shits and giggles...but it took me a year after March 2020 to realize it was a global operation, and that we are already under their rule. That our Congress has no power. They work for them. Blackmail and money do wonders.
Zev Zelenko said it, and I got kicked off of twitter for repeating it...that it is an easy decision to make Either you go along with us, and you get xxx amount in a Swiss bank account that no one knows about (money varies depending on whether its the President of a country or the reps etc.) OR, we kill your family.
THAT is what was done all over the Western Democracies, down to the least rep.
For the rest, they either go along to get along, or the INtelligence service in their countries blackmail them, or threaten to. All they have to do is threaten to download child porn on your computer, and you are toast.
“...but it took me a year after March 2020 to realize it was a global operation, and that we are already under their rule.” This doesn’t seem all that “stupid” to me, Duchess. I think that all of us who understand criminal conspiracies perpetrated by psychopaths -- whether the psychopathic (so-called) “elites” who constitute the ruling class or the lower class psychopaths who make up a percentage of the prison population -- still want to have hope for a better future for our adult children and our grandchildren and our great grandchildren. (I only have one grandchild.) That hope can manifest as the self-deception “I know things are really bad, but they can’t be really, really bad” or something mental like that.
You’re totally correct about blackmail. Investigative journalists who cannot be blackmailed are often murdered, with their deaths ruled as being suicides.
The future looks bleak, but I don’t put my trust or hope or faith in human political (or religious) leaders.
How about you? Do you have a psychologically healthy vision for the future of humanity?
I kinda of late am putting my trust in God...for I have none left for humanity. I am trying to make sure the young in my family have a bolt hole and a way to survive without enslavement...but they are much cleverer than I....I just want them to get out of the cities.
As far as a healthy view, no. I truly beleie the Constitution was the best document but we didn't interpret it strictly...first Congress gave the right to coin money to a cabal, then the income tax (not allowed) and then the general welfare clause...welfare did not mean WELFARE in that sense. I keep an old dictionary, as words meaning change. I do not beleive it is a living document except by amendment or Constitutional Convention. And I see the states have ceeded their rights to the fed.
I think the guy who wrote political Ponerology was right...we need to go back to the thirteen states, but of course, they would be large geographical regions as he points out, that have a lot in common including geography. And the states need to each be their own experiment...no fed except for maybe interhighway roads and defense.
Unless we can do this (and I doubt it, although when people wake up they may (but I don't hold out hope) that some seceed....and we start over. If we are lucky.
one problem with the Constitution is ambiguous wording in some passages. the lizards seize on that and interpret the phrases how they like. Another is there is no real punishment for not following the Constitution. Of course the Constitution would be subverted and destroyed because people. Power and wealth, psychopaths always get in control and soon the entire organization or government is run by psychopaths.
I’m the only one in my family who realizes the truth about the vast conspiracy to establish world government. Even when the subject is brought up, some family members believe that such a government would be benign.
I agree with you that understanding the legal definitions of the words in which the constitution was written is important, but I (unfortunately) believe that the constitutional republic is now dead. (Maybe it can be miraculously resurrected, but I doubt it.) I think that the pathocratic state is way too firmly rooted & entrenched.
Is it defeatist and fatalistic (and just plain wrong & stupid) to believe that it’s too late for humanity to save ourselves and that we need to look for the second coming of Christ? Maybe to some, but not to others. And in the meantime, there will be false messiahs and false prophets and fake saviors? Such a scenario makes sense to me.
People need to wake up! From the very beginning democracy/republics, are Luciferian constructs devised for the end we are seeing now. They are designed to devolve into tyranny, anarchy and annilation of humankind. And, our ONLY defence is GOD. St. Paul told us in Ephesians 6:12, "For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood (aka, humans); but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in high places." God has allowed this to happen because humans have abandoned Him. Only He can save us and NOT WE OURSELVES. Wake up, stupid and fooish people!
I would say first Lincoln abrogated the Constitution and set the citizens against each other in vicious horrible warfare that killed at least 600,000 Americans and maimed and paralyzed many thousands more and left many families fatherless.
This paved the way for more restrictions on Freedom than Mr. Lincoln levied, in due time, step by step through the decades til we have Julian Assange today .
John MacAfee who did the anti virus. They killed him. He said dont take these mrna vaccines. He said the us government with DOD biggest drug trafficker and human trafficker and jeffrey Epstein was connected to CIA and DOD
So kind. Thank you. But I am still stupid.
Sorry for my uninvited interjection.
" Do you have a psychologically healthy vision for the future of humanity?"
Hah! I don't even have a healthy future vision for myself, and I'm in full, vigorous health and am as strong as a bull! And yet, even that much these days only seems a necessary but still woefully insufficient condition.
No apology needed. Thanks for the reply.
My vision? I’ll continue to get older until I eventually die. That’s fate and I’m okay with being a fatalist.
A vision for an existence after death? I’m unsure. Maybe the collection of our life’s lessons, stories/myths and experiences creates some form of psychic energy. This energy is drawn from the earth and from the breath. The Sanskrit word for breath is prāṇa.
What happens when one takes his/her last breath and the body decays into the earth or is reduced to ashes? Is this psychic energy destroyed? I don’t believe so. It merely changes form.
So then, how ought one live? Mindfully. Improve one’s mind. Live life experientially. Create a story that you can admire.
I don't deserve it, though I do appreciate your tolerance. This is a public forum and the conversation in the comments is open, of course, but I still feel it was impolite of me to have dropped in like I did. And in any case, as for the comment I made, there was no need for me to have been a damn fool about it.
I like your vision for the future and I would like for it to turn out that way. Somewhat like you, but not as gracefully as you, alas, I disbelieve in the persistence of the individual beyond death, neither as the same nor in some manner transformed, not even by enlightenment. I don't know this, of course, nor does anyone else, nevertheless it seems to me a futile conceit to believe one should deserve more than their allotted three-score and ten (having increased to four, it's now creeping back to three after all the shots).
"Maybe the collection of our life’s lessons, stories/myths and experiences creates some form of psychic energy. This energy is drawn from the earth and from the breath. The Sanskrit word for breath is prāṇa."
That seems similar, and yet different from another example of shared ancestral knowledge from deep time. Australia's indigenous peoples could traverse thousands of miles on foot, anywhere from Yolngu to Anangu, from Wangai to Muruwari tribal lands, all by the song lines. Singing the songs called up the features of the land by which they navigated the continent. All they required for any great journey was knowledge of lore, which they had, and time, which was unlimited. Then white fella arrived...
I also believe that the whole world would benefit immeasurably if our particularly restless, murderous and at the same time suicidal species would simply redirect more time and effort from action and into contemplation.
Thanks again. I value your way of thinking, and I'll look out for you further comments and writings.
I'm going to write something here and then delete it, as I don't want it on this thread.
Gary is bright and can be thoughtful.
He's very grounded here and present.
But what he says does not necessarily line up with how he is as a human. (for many complicated reasons)
You are not undeserving. We all have to do the work of ourselves. Apologizing at times (whether we are forgiven is something else) and looking at ourselves with clarity and honesty. Which can be extremely challenging.
Don't raise him above yourself.
You’re right. How I am “as a human” is not very grounded at times. Most of the time I feel -- not that feelings reflect reality -- messed up and insecure and neurotic (and worse).
Hope that helps, EET
I certainly like the idea of getting rid of the worst of the worst psychopaths who are on the top of the power hierarchy. I simply don’t know HOW.
is that true? history provides many examples. It's the price of actioning them that seems to get in the way. so then it's a matter of conviction, or courage.
I am ignorant of the history of pathocracies being overthrown. I suppose (mistakenly?) that the new bosses are similar to the old bosses, in terms of their psychopathic qualities. Too pessimistic?
perhaps too but also not unrealistic. there is an element of faith, of trusting humanity to be more than it has shown itself to be. Hope seems to be a critical component. It's hard to find it at times.
i'd say nearly all governments or societies are oriented to control or harvest the labour of the many to benefit a few. that is pathocentric. sure some may start with an apparent wider purview but the few always seem to wield undue influence and create or sneak in means to expand their power.
the rest can't be bothered, or aren't clear enough in their analysis of the situation, or are hoodwinked or bamboozled by the promise of ease and security, or frankly just don't go there as long as they are mostly comfortable with the arrangement.
and yes, the new bosses are always similar to the old bosses it appears. because the new bosses have been taught what works and they advantage themselves in the same ways the old bosses did. it may be a new group so to sell the "change" the control may take a step back, and there may be attempts to build a system that is less prone to breaking or being corrupted. until it is anyway.
utopia has a problem in that it is never reachable from here.
but the needs we seek to meet are not unclear. the will hasn't been sufficient it seems, or the ability isn't there. We are smart individually but often (too often it seems) behave abysmally in groups.
We also focus on relieving symptoms and not understanding and repairing the root causes. This leads to those who know this to pull our strings and yank our chains which leads to favorable outcomes for those with the power and desire to narrowly serve themselves and those like them.
That’s a forthright analysis. I read somewhere that critical analysis is the highest form of logic. And I also read that human logic is ultimately misleading. So many contradictions. So little time to resolve them.
I don't believe you have to go after the '8,000' at all. You just have to go after some of the order followers in order to scare the other order followers. Then the 8,000 (not sure how that number was arrived at) have no one to implement their evil plans. It's quite simple really and exactly what they do to us.
Very well said.
Blackrock the shadow government