Joe Rogan did a podcast the day after his Trump interview where he recapped some of the talking points, and gave his overall impressions of what may be the most viewed episode of his show ever.
Trump's position on vaccines, polio or any other, annoyed the snot out of me. Will somebody please get Trump the "Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth" book. FWIW, before the covid scam I fell for the vaccine scam too. There are no "safe" and "effective" vaccine - does not exist.
He’s working with RFK Jr. He doesn’t need a book. His comment about not being sure about some vaccines was about as far as it was smart to go leading up to an election (like RFK Jr. focusing on toxins in food etc. to MAHA). Trump mentioned the cases of polio in Gaza and Rogan pointed out they seem to have been cases from the polio vaccine.
I agree. Trump did well on the podcast. That was smart. He can deal with all these covid and injection problems we face after he gets back in the White House. He has some good people surrounding him that will want this taken care of also.
Thanks for the warped logic demo, Renee! I bet you didn't know that Republican & good guy Ronald Reagan took your 1st amd. right to sue our beloved, [50 billion in fraud fines] big pharma for damages, from their fraudulent/ forced at gunpoint, toxic heavy metal-lased, kid-killing death jabs? Well did you?
Thanks! The same is true in veterinary medicine also. Our pets are suffering from chronic conditions and early deaths as a result of over-vaccinating. The more I research, the more horrifying it gets. The medical mafia has taken over the veterinarians also. Might be something you want to look into…
Yep. I noticed first hand in 2016. Didn't connect the dots until recently sadly. Once you see it you can't unsee it. Why would they need vet oncology and heart specialists? Being a pet owner is becoming a luxury, try getting out of a vet visit w/out paying $500. Why are pet meds becoming commonplace as well? Seizures are normal! Anxiety normal! Sensitive skin and stomachs normal! I don't think so 😡.
Thank you Patricia for sharing these observations. I’m in human health care ( functional medicine) and have wondered how our pets are being affected. Are there any books or articles we can read to educate ourselves? Any functional medicine approach for vets and animals? Thank you🙏🏻
If these diseases were so contagious, wouldn’t you think every illegal entering the country would be given at least a dozen vaccines when they were processed in?
Wouldn’t you think street people and homeless would have been mandated to have them also?
Did they drop dead in the streets from Covid, measles, polio etc?
During the fraudulent, pharma-caused/ [gain of function] 50 million kill, Fort Riley Kansas [patient zero] Flu. [AKA Spanish Flu] Typical "doctors" injected 12 healthy sailors/ suckers with puss from sick H1N1 flu victims! Guess what? Nothing happened, just as with their patented Coved 19 invention from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill’s high-containment biowarfare laboratories! That made fraudulent killer pharma many trillions of dollars! (Needed to buy advertising & politicians!)
Trump is not a scientist or doctor. He had to rely on the sneaky, lying government healthcare traitors all around him.
If Trump had announced that he was ignoring the advice of our healthcare "experts", the mainstream media would have gone into hysterics - "Trump wants to kill Americans!" "How dare he question our hero Fauci!!" "Impeach NOW!!!" Trump was backed into a corner that was years in the planning.
One thing Trump mentioned was that in entering office, he was faced with hiring 10,000 people....those he appointed and then those his many appointees hired on his behalf. As a total political outsider, it's common sense to understand that Trump couldn't possibly about so many people and oversee the hiring of 10,000 people appropriate to the various positions. No one could. There will always be rotten apples in any bunch. Trump appointed what he thought and hoped would be good people, but too many of them totally sold him out. He trusted a lot of former and ongoing government officials to do the right thing, and he was sold out on that trust too. That's a sad reality. He wasn't so aware in 2016, but he says he knows better now what he's up against, but nevertheless it's a tough job. I challenge anyone to quickly and massively hire even 1000 people and be certain they are good people doing the right thing.
Vaccines are not the thing to focus on at the moment, though, so I think this was wisely played. Get the right party in so we even have a chance to change things. An anti vax statement by Trump would cost him independents' votes. And it's most important that we don't end up with the mandatory party in charge. (Do you know if prisoners had the right to refuse the covid shot?)
This won't come from the president's office anyway, but through the regulation channels. Hence Carson/Kennedy will be the ones to push on. We are on the brink of a financial meltdown/world war/civil war/chaos that will have to take priority for a bit -- at least in my tiny corner of the world opinion. ;)
Exactly! He simply cannot bring up the vaccines and what happened without getting torpedoed into losing. I have to think he NOW knows the facts, but it's not prudent to make it all a big campaign point. He's working with RFKJr, who DOES know all this and who has undoubtedly enlightened Trump if he didn't understand it all before. If he gets elected, that would be the time to expose all the deception, but not right now. It seems like not everyone understands what would happen if Harris continues the policies of the last 4 years. That is the option in this election, what Harris would do is a virtual certainty.
Belief in vaccines is a personal decision. Most of us were able to figure it out on our own so you have to allow that others can as well. The critical thing we need from government and private sectors is to be left alone. Trump is of a generation where polio and Salk are spoken in hushed, reverential tones. I don't think Boomers will ever give that up fully, their brains are too traumatized, like some now with their security blanket masks. So I do think in this case the lesser of two evils that the alternative evil is so much worse to justify supporting the side who seem at least to be promising to allow you bodily autonomy and being able to speak about it without being sent to the gulag. I like that the Trump rally seemed to indicate mainstreaming of knowing the corporate infestation, corrupt globalist bankers, anti-war and anti-surveillance into the conversation. The power of most issues fall apart once the stranglehold is broken on the root causes, the Federal Reserve and public-private military industrial intelligence complex.
So basically, the Joe Rogan/Donald Trump 'conversation' was entertainment for the masses. And some topics like the Death Jabs were topics non grata.
And so given this unwillingness directly talk about criminal corruption including murder, how likely is it that we shall ever see prosecutions? For the crimes committed while in office by people like Hillary, Biden, Bush, Cheney?
And given the above, America is likely to be beyond reform and therefore will sink under the weight of continued corruption.
Those there words of yours are, in a odd way, a help and comfort to me. So thanks for writing. At least I have the comfort, and also a kind of satisfaction, in knowing that there are likely people 'out there' who see this as you do. And if there is you and me, there are lots, lots more. You can almost bet your boots on that.
Joe Rogan probably had his reasons for holding a soft ball or wiffle ball event. He probably did not want to do or say anything which would increase the likelihood of Camela's Jackboot coming down on our necks. But still, there was a lot of extraction to be had as to why 'the system' is the way it is, and by indirection ... a sad indication as to why political discourse is the way it is as to what folks can get by with as to the general population.
Have a really nice day. There's sunshine outside my window. And the fall colors are looking good in Roanoke, Virginia.
If you look to Trump to be superman you will definitely be disappointed. He's not going to save you or anyone else. You have to admit his presence has moved the needle on what can be asked. Rogan is on a leash, they're all on leaches. And even if they weren't how can all the world's problems be fixed in a 3 hour entertainment interview? It's taken a century to arrive at this point with the Rockefeller corrupted medical system so it's going to take more than one interview to break that chain.
Essentially right, and as you have stated. We are indeed all in one hell of a pickle, and there is a reluctance for people to look at things for exactly as they are. There is sowing and reaping. And no one is to keen on reaping when the crop is lethality. People would rather pretend things were otherwise, that look at the stare night to must be faced.
I watched this last night. I am curious to hear what people, especially unlike myself think of all of this mess. You may not want to take the time, but the first ten or so minutes are the essence. Dore characterizes the enemy, especially the cultural enemy of which he was once a part. Being vaccine injured was a big part of his change of mind.
so ive heard rhe theory that polio was actually caused by arsenic pesticides and ddt. and ive read that the only places that still have wild polio are Pakistan and Afghanistan. Is there a pesticide or something still in use there which would cause polio? This pesticide theory was for the USA so can it be traced worldwide as well?
Thanks, i listened. It did elucidate one part of that theory I did get from reading shorter articles about it which was the idea that the pesticides were what made the nervous system permeable to the virus, so the virus is still involved. So the theory is it's a combination of the virus and anything that could have a similar effect as pesticides, not necessarily limited to pesticids.
And it did mention that the author thought polio probably would have "burned itself out" by now were it not for the vaccines. if it answered anything about wild polio in Pakistan and Afghanistan or the relationship between ddt etc. bans per country and how that tracks with polio i didn't catch it, since it still seemed focused on USA.
So sad that Rogan didn’t speak up for humanity and nail Trump on the Covid warp, speed, bio weapons. I can hardly believe it, but I guess Joe bought off too.
Precisely. I have come to that very sad conclusion. Which is why I will not vote in this election. I have no interest in a game when our very lives depend on it.
People are suffering due to that injection. That is not a game.
It's just a bunch of grown ups throwing sand at each other.
You won the most stupid comment trophy! Besides death jabs did you know that iatrogenic medicine kills 250,000 to 800,000 each year? When you leave this temporary life, you [most likely] will hate the next one even more!
So if you were a brand new president who has people in positions that are experts in their field advising you on what to do, are you saying that youwouldn't take their advice? Fauci and Birx were his advisors on something no US president had dealt with
Also Fauci had been in his position for decades and anyone could assume he knew what he was dong, and was the wise expert he claimed to be. How would Trump have known what a lying scumbag Fauci was? Would all the naysayers around here have just kicked him out instantly? When Trump took office, pre-Covid, did anyone know anything about Fauci? Trump booted James Comey out and look at the blowback he got for that one act.
A president is forced into granting a certain amount of trust to those veteran officials around him so the processes of government can proceed uninterrupted. If he instantly trusted no one, he would have been paralyzed to take any action.
And remember, our 50 billion in fraud fines, [I.e. frauds that kill!] [with no jail time] big pharma industrial complex has the biggest lobbeying money supply! Messing with that money machine can and will get you prosacuted or killed, or out voted!
Trump's position on vaccines, polio or any other, annoyed the snot out of me. Will somebody please get Trump the "Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth" book. FWIW, before the covid scam I fell for the vaccine scam too. There are no "safe" and "effective" vaccine - does not exist.
He’s working with RFK Jr. He doesn’t need a book. His comment about not being sure about some vaccines was about as far as it was smart to go leading up to an election (like RFK Jr. focusing on toxins in food etc. to MAHA). Trump mentioned the cases of polio in Gaza and Rogan pointed out they seem to have been cases from the polio vaccine.
I agree. Trump did well on the podcast. That was smart. He can deal with all these covid and injection problems we face after he gets back in the White House. He has some good people surrounding him that will want this taken care of also.
Operation Warp Speed/vaccines is exactly WHY I’m not voting for Trump. I voted for him twice, then I woke up.
Ah... so you would rather the party who will force every vaccine to ever be made to get in?
We already are at this point, and have been for decades. People need to do their own research and wake up!
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/vaccine-bait-switch-millions-pulled-from-who-trump-gives-billions-gates-founded-gavi/
Thanks for the warped logic demo, Renee! I bet you didn't know that Republican & good guy Ronald Reagan took your 1st amd. right to sue our beloved, [50 billion in fraud fines] big pharma for damages, from their fraudulent/ forced at gunpoint, toxic heavy metal-lased, kid-killing death jabs? Well did you?
Of course I know!
https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house-bill/5546
Thanks! The same is true in veterinary medicine also. Our pets are suffering from chronic conditions and early deaths as a result of over-vaccinating. The more I research, the more horrifying it gets. The medical mafia has taken over the veterinarians also. Might be something you want to look into…
Yep. I noticed first hand in 2016. Didn't connect the dots until recently sadly. Once you see it you can't unsee it. Why would they need vet oncology and heart specialists? Being a pet owner is becoming a luxury, try getting out of a vet visit w/out paying $500. Why are pet meds becoming commonplace as well? Seizures are normal! Anxiety normal! Sensitive skin and stomachs normal! I don't think so 😡.
And they are just as susceptible to the EMFs. We all need protection from that as well!
Thank you Patricia for sharing these observations. I’m in human health care ( functional medicine) and have wondered how our pets are being affected. Are there any books or articles we can read to educate ourselves? Any functional medicine approach for vets and animals? Thank you🙏🏻
Check out Vital Animal Substack… he has lots of info.
Heavy metals generate metal-specific free radicals or reactive oxygen species(ROS) that cause oxidative stress to cells.[7]
You could read https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK560920/ on what heavy metal-laced vaccines can do to your dog & you! I.e.
DNA damage, impaired DNA repair, cell apoptosis, or carcinogenesis. [My favorite!]
Peroxidation of cell membrane lipids and cell damage
Inactivation of the enzyme proteins.
Prevention of protein folding. [mad cow fun]
Protein aggregation.
Conformational changes that affect their structure and function and cause cell damage.
Also look at his website vitalanimal.com Lots of info and mini courses. William Falconer, DMV
If these diseases were so contagious, wouldn’t you think every illegal entering the country would be given at least a dozen vaccines when they were processed in?
Wouldn’t you think street people and homeless would have been mandated to have them also?
Did they drop dead in the streets from Covid, measles, polio etc?
What are the stats? Anyone checking?
Just wondering?
". . . wouldn’t you think every illegal entering the country would be given at least a dozen vaccines when they were processed in?" Exactly!
During the fraudulent, pharma-caused/ [gain of function] 50 million kill, Fort Riley Kansas [patient zero] Flu. [AKA Spanish Flu] Typical "doctors" injected 12 healthy sailors/ suckers with puss from sick H1N1 flu victims! Guess what? Nothing happened, just as with their patented Coved 19 invention from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill’s high-containment biowarfare laboratories! That made fraudulent killer pharma many trillions of dollars! (Needed to buy advertising & politicians!)
Trump is not a scientist or doctor. He had to rely on the sneaky, lying government healthcare traitors all around him.
If Trump had announced that he was ignoring the advice of our healthcare "experts", the mainstream media would have gone into hysterics - "Trump wants to kill Americans!" "How dare he question our hero Fauci!!" "Impeach NOW!!!" Trump was backed into a corner that was years in the planning.
Hopefully, he will not let that happen again.
One thing Trump mentioned was that in entering office, he was faced with hiring 10,000 people....those he appointed and then those his many appointees hired on his behalf. As a total political outsider, it's common sense to understand that Trump couldn't possibly about so many people and oversee the hiring of 10,000 people appropriate to the various positions. No one could. There will always be rotten apples in any bunch. Trump appointed what he thought and hoped would be good people, but too many of them totally sold him out. He trusted a lot of former and ongoing government officials to do the right thing, and he was sold out on that trust too. That's a sad reality. He wasn't so aware in 2016, but he says he knows better now what he's up against, but nevertheless it's a tough job. I challenge anyone to quickly and massively hire even 1000 people and be certain they are good people doing the right thing.
Agree… give him turtles all the way down … give me 10 minutes with Trump and I can show him pictures of the stillbirths I delivered. He needs to look at the clots embalmers are removing. Go to this stack and see for yourself. https://laurakasner.substack.com/p/graphic-video-and-pics?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
Thanks for the link to my stack Bro. 🥰
I audibly groaned when I heard Trump repeat the narrative surrounding polio. I was glad to hear Joe challenge him on it.
I agree with others commenting here about the timing of this discussion. Trump is winning over Dems. He’s gaining momentum every day (thank God).
If WE know the Covid shots are killing people, so does he. And would bet money Bobby has enlightened him on the whole vaccine scam.
It’s a game. And I believe Trump knows how to play it very well.
Yes me too Laura K
Vaccines are not the thing to focus on at the moment, though, so I think this was wisely played. Get the right party in so we even have a chance to change things. An anti vax statement by Trump would cost him independents' votes. And it's most important that we don't end up with the mandatory party in charge. (Do you know if prisoners had the right to refuse the covid shot?)
This won't come from the president's office anyway, but through the regulation channels. Hence Carson/Kennedy will be the ones to push on. We are on the brink of a financial meltdown/world war/civil war/chaos that will have to take priority for a bit -- at least in my tiny corner of the world opinion. ;)
Exactly! He simply cannot bring up the vaccines and what happened without getting torpedoed into losing. I have to think he NOW knows the facts, but it's not prudent to make it all a big campaign point. He's working with RFKJr, who DOES know all this and who has undoubtedly enlightened Trump if he didn't understand it all before. If he gets elected, that would be the time to expose all the deception, but not right now. It seems like not everyone understands what would happen if Harris continues the policies of the last 4 years. That is the option in this election, what Harris would do is a virtual certainty.
Belief in vaccines is a personal decision. Most of us were able to figure it out on our own so you have to allow that others can as well. The critical thing we need from government and private sectors is to be left alone. Trump is of a generation where polio and Salk are spoken in hushed, reverential tones. I don't think Boomers will ever give that up fully, their brains are too traumatized, like some now with their security blanket masks. So I do think in this case the lesser of two evils that the alternative evil is so much worse to justify supporting the side who seem at least to be promising to allow you bodily autonomy and being able to speak about it without being sent to the gulag. I like that the Trump rally seemed to indicate mainstreaming of knowing the corporate infestation, corrupt globalist bankers, anti-war and anti-surveillance into the conversation. The power of most issues fall apart once the stranglehold is broken on the root causes, the Federal Reserve and public-private military industrial intelligence complex.
So basically, the Joe Rogan/Donald Trump 'conversation' was entertainment for the masses. And some topics like the Death Jabs were topics non grata.
And so given this unwillingness directly talk about criminal corruption including murder, how likely is it that we shall ever see prosecutions? For the crimes committed while in office by people like Hillary, Biden, Bush, Cheney?
And given the above, America is likely to be beyond reform and therefore will sink under the weight of continued corruption.
Sadly, I agree.
@Judith. Sadly God Jesus's Bible predicted and agreed with the "sinking" of Satan's world! BUT we don't have to go down with it Jesus is our lifeboat!
Those there words of yours are, in a odd way, a help and comfort to me. So thanks for writing. At least I have the comfort, and also a kind of satisfaction, in knowing that there are likely people 'out there' who see this as you do. And if there is you and me, there are lots, lots more. You can almost bet your boots on that.
Joe Rogan probably had his reasons for holding a soft ball or wiffle ball event. He probably did not want to do or say anything which would increase the likelihood of Camela's Jackboot coming down on our necks. But still, there was a lot of extraction to be had as to why 'the system' is the way it is, and by indirection ... a sad indication as to why political discourse is the way it is as to what folks can get by with as to the general population.
Have a really nice day. There's sunshine outside my window. And the fall colors are looking good in Roanoke, Virginia.
If you look to Trump to be superman you will definitely be disappointed. He's not going to save you or anyone else. You have to admit his presence has moved the needle on what can be asked. Rogan is on a leash, they're all on leaches. And even if they weren't how can all the world's problems be fixed in a 3 hour entertainment interview? It's taken a century to arrive at this point with the Rockefeller corrupted medical system so it's going to take more than one interview to break that chain.
Essentially right, and as you have stated. We are indeed all in one hell of a pickle, and there is a reluctance for people to look at things for exactly as they are. There is sowing and reaping. And no one is to keen on reaping when the crop is lethality. People would rather pretend things were otherwise, that look at the stare night to must be faced.
I watched this last night. I am curious to hear what people, especially unlike myself think of all of this mess. You may not want to take the time, but the first ten or so minutes are the essence. Dore characterizes the enemy, especially the cultural enemy of which he was once a part. Being vaccine injured was a big part of his change of mind.
https://rumble.com/v5kigeq-jimmy-dore-trumps-msg-rally-wapo-refusing-to-endorse-kamala-and-why-trump-w.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
thank you!!
so ive heard rhe theory that polio was actually caused by arsenic pesticides and ddt. and ive read that the only places that still have wild polio are Pakistan and Afghanistan. Is there a pesticide or something still in use there which would cause polio? This pesticide theory was for the USA so can it be traced worldwide as well?
This is worth a listen. Bret Weinstein with Forrest Maready on the history of polio. https://open.spotify.com/episode/2GbBKy1RvBIr8nJsfrHiJf?si=bRwj7WhfRcisxBC2Byj4CQ
Thanks, i listened. It did elucidate one part of that theory I did get from reading shorter articles about it which was the idea that the pesticides were what made the nervous system permeable to the virus, so the virus is still involved. So the theory is it's a combination of the virus and anything that could have a similar effect as pesticides, not necessarily limited to pesticids.
And it did mention that the author thought polio probably would have "burned itself out" by now were it not for the vaccines. if it answered anything about wild polio in Pakistan and Afghanistan or the relationship between ddt etc. bans per country and how that tracks with polio i didn't catch it, since it still seemed focused on USA.
So sad that Rogan didn’t speak up for humanity and nail Trump on the Covid warp, speed, bio weapons. I can hardly believe it, but I guess Joe bought off too.
That would not be how one would win over those on the fence. Best to stick to basics at the moment and win the election first. Politics is a game.
Precisely. I have come to that very sad conclusion. Which is why I will not vote in this election. I have no interest in a game when our very lives depend on it.
People are suffering due to that injection. That is not a game.
It's just a bunch of grown ups throwing sand at each other.
You won the most stupid comment trophy! Besides death jabs did you know that iatrogenic medicine kills 250,000 to 800,000 each year? When you leave this temporary life, you [most likely] will hate the next one even more!
So if you were a brand new president who has people in positions that are experts in their field advising you on what to do, are you saying that youwouldn't take their advice? Fauci and Birx were his advisors on something no US president had dealt with
Also Fauci had been in his position for decades and anyone could assume he knew what he was dong, and was the wise expert he claimed to be. How would Trump have known what a lying scumbag Fauci was? Would all the naysayers around here have just kicked him out instantly? When Trump took office, pre-Covid, did anyone know anything about Fauci? Trump booted James Comey out and look at the blowback he got for that one act.
A president is forced into granting a certain amount of trust to those veteran officials around him so the processes of government can proceed uninterrupted. If he instantly trusted no one, he would have been paralyzed to take any action.
You are making some great points in your comments that happen to us all everyday if we think about it.
Friends and even family members we trust to do the right thing, sometimes don’t.
The cheating spouse, the embezzling business partner etc.
Armchair quarterbacking is always easier after the fact.
And remember, our 50 billion in fraud fines, [I.e. frauds that kill!] [with no jail time] big pharma industrial complex has the biggest lobbeying money supply! Messing with that money machine can and will get you prosacuted or killed, or out voted!
Another great point.
Thanks for your reply and insight.
Can’t argue with that.
I hope Rogan has body guards and a food-taster. He is a treasure.
Really fucked Joe Rogan he hasn’t made any headway. I don’t ever listen to his stupid podcast. Glad Trump went on it, but no one listens to it really
😂 he has 15M subscribers
The two best books on this subject are:
Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries MD
Moth in the Iron Lung by Forrest Moready
Hi smartest please watch this on Tuesday, immune memory is decades if not life long just like other viruses..
DATE WITH DR STEVEN PELECH IMMUNOLOGY TUESDAY
Sheldon Yakiwchuk YAKK SUBSTACK
Down the COVID-19 Rabbit Hole
Livestream
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