Dave, let me answer your question:
"Then, there is the matter of what many of us see with our own eyes. Have you not experienced as part of the 'new normal' this bizarre existence where 'everything is fine, life is normal, and we can talk about anything, except reality'? Have you not seen people freeze and zone out right before your eyes…
"Then, there is the matter of what many of us see with our own eyes. Have you not experienced as part of the 'new normal' this bizarre existence where 'everything is fine, life is normal, and we can talk about anything, except reality'? Have you not seen people freeze and zone out right before your eyes when you try to talk about anything that goes against the narratives and then suddenly snap back and change the subject as if you said nothing?"
Yes, every single time, with very few exceptions. Its bloody painful. Everywhere I look I see life just going on like absolutely nothing wrong or weird. It does my head in.
I like your charitable approach to Desmet, though I am not too sure i'll let him off the hook so quite so quickly. Personally I see him as just another specialist who is possibly blind to truth od the wider world around him. I'm not going to say that he has bad intentions, I just think he's wrong if he's suggesting that this "Mass Formation" has not "formed" in gounds that were not purposely cultivated to provide an environment where the "Mass Formation" is the only thing that could have "formed". I have not read Arendt yet but have read Meerloo. I found when reading The Rape of The Mind that I was almost laughing hysterically at how the behaviours he describled so perfectly matched those that I saw all around me.
Thanks John. Being charitable is not my intent. I’ve called Desmet out several times for several issues. I simply perceive, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of people are suddenly trying to dismiss his work outright, possibly based on a questionable characterisation of his position, which even if true still would not mean the work is without merit or that intentions were bad. Merloo was a genius in his insights. He certainly influenced Arendt’s work...his books were short and concise. Nothing wrong with that, but Arendt’a work offers a much more comprehensive look at the subject-matter. Definitely recommend. FYI, Arendt did not argue what 2nd Greatest et all are asserting and Desmet cites her constantly in his book. If he really actively took the position some are asserting I would think he’d of made the distinction. Instead, I think people are making a mountain out of something... not quite sure what their reasons are, save perhaps to distance themselves from Desmet’s personal issues, which are a separate matter, IMO.
These matters are so complex when dealing with the esoteric thoughts of individuals. I too don't know if Desmet has another game on the go, I suspect not. But we certainly shouldnt throw the baby out with the bath water.
Dave, let me answer your question:
"Then, there is the matter of what many of us see with our own eyes. Have you not experienced as part of the 'new normal' this bizarre existence where 'everything is fine, life is normal, and we can talk about anything, except reality'? Have you not seen people freeze and zone out right before your eyes when you try to talk about anything that goes against the narratives and then suddenly snap back and change the subject as if you said nothing?"
Yes, every single time, with very few exceptions. Its bloody painful. Everywhere I look I see life just going on like absolutely nothing wrong or weird. It does my head in.
I like your charitable approach to Desmet, though I am not too sure i'll let him off the hook so quite so quickly. Personally I see him as just another specialist who is possibly blind to truth od the wider world around him. I'm not going to say that he has bad intentions, I just think he's wrong if he's suggesting that this "Mass Formation" has not "formed" in gounds that were not purposely cultivated to provide an environment where the "Mass Formation" is the only thing that could have "formed". I have not read Arendt yet but have read Meerloo. I found when reading The Rape of The Mind that I was almost laughing hysterically at how the behaviours he describled so perfectly matched those that I saw all around me.
Thanks John. Being charitable is not my intent. I’ve called Desmet out several times for several issues. I simply perceive, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of people are suddenly trying to dismiss his work outright, possibly based on a questionable characterisation of his position, which even if true still would not mean the work is without merit or that intentions were bad. Merloo was a genius in his insights. He certainly influenced Arendt’s work...his books were short and concise. Nothing wrong with that, but Arendt’a work offers a much more comprehensive look at the subject-matter. Definitely recommend. FYI, Arendt did not argue what 2nd Greatest et all are asserting and Desmet cites her constantly in his book. If he really actively took the position some are asserting I would think he’d of made the distinction. Instead, I think people are making a mountain out of something... not quite sure what their reasons are, save perhaps to distance themselves from Desmet’s personal issues, which are a separate matter, IMO.
These matters are so complex when dealing with the esoteric thoughts of individuals. I too don't know if Desmet has another game on the go, I suspect not. But we certainly shouldnt throw the baby out with the bath water.