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Very well said! If you haven't yet, I suggest to study Nietzsche, you will find some answers about why all these religions are necessarily hypocritical and self-defeating in the long term. (Do not believe the bullshitters and deliberate misinterpretations, read it yourself.)

I know some decent Catholics though, but they all cut ties from the treasonous church recently.

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Makes me happy, that I managed to spark some interest! I have some advice/ disclaimer though: Nietzsche writes in very different style than most philosophers. He often uses ancient styles of writing.

It's easy to misinterpret him. Like it's popularly attributed to him, that he declared: "God is dead." He never actually said that himself, only some of his characters said it like "The Madman" and Zarathustra, it does not necessarily mean that Nietzsche thinks they are right.

For the first time it can be also be very off-putting what he says about women, in short: women are "shallow", because they "live on the surface", but bear with him, because he well explain later, why he thinks women actually understand the real world better than men.

Nietzsche is not for everybody. I personally don't agree everything he said, but it's amazing how much ahead he was of his time. He has basically accurately deduced the sociopolitical "developments" of the 20th century and beyond.

I think the book "On the Genealogy of Morality" contains his most straightforward analysis of religion. He really digs deep there.

I'm an amateur student of philosophy, read almost everything that's worth reading, and I think after Aristotle, Nietzsche has the most interesting things to say.

He also a prime example of someone who "walked the walk", he lived by his philosophy and accepted the consequences.

Oh and by the way, he was not a nazi or a "proto-nazi", the exact opposite, he hated the state, and collectivist ideologies.

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I'm happy to share my thoughts, and I also not claim, that I have the correct interpretations of Nietzsche. Sometimes his "protagonists" (intentionally) contradict themselves, which can be interpreted multiple ways.

His analysis of religion is one of the things that is more direct. What he does, is that he digs up the human psychology about God and morality, it is very different than what I expected when I read it first. Nothing like the Marxist platitudes like: "Religion is the opium of the people." Though he is even less gentle in critiquing Christianity and Judaism.

So he has no prescription about God and religion, but the way he analyzes them is very unique and thought provoking. I cannot really summarize it well in a comment.

One interesting thing is that he thought that ancient people, like the Greeks had a more correct understanding of God(s) and morality, which I tend to agree more as I research the topic.

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