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I don't agree with you. Nurses are not permitted to give any medication without informed consent. To save time and any confusion, nurses are able to provide a printed copy of the fact sheet/sheets on the medication for the patient to keep. Sometimes Doctors don't make the time

to talk all about it and request RN/secretary to print a copy. Should the med be brand new?

The Dr. calls the pharmacy person (they all have their doctorate byw) and they come to the unit and assist in giving informed consent. That is the procedure in a hospital. Clinic or MD office?

Don't know, no experience with that. I have seen clinic staff (a blood draw) wearing gloves,

while answering the phone, drinking and eating, going through paperwork and then return

to a patient and drawing the blood. I have also seen a young person sitting at a table just

inside a pharmacy with vials and packages of needles etc, wearing the gloves, but no handwashing or glove change, calling to clients, "free flu shots today"...Can anyone see the flaw?

My female doc in the city really pushed every shot, (she was once a friend too) and with each

6 mo. visit I was asked 3 times/sometimes 4 if I wanted the flu shot etc. by different people.

I don't excuse any MD that does not provide informed consent. I know the docs work for

the hospital or clinic now. The trade off is/are insurance. Private practice is now finished

due to insurance costs. The company pays the insurance but the doc must follow procedures

the hospital endorses. I retired early because I saw unnecessary procedures and

poor medication policy every day. I balked, (many of us did) but the smirk faced MD would

just respond with "revenue building" and continued on. The Docs need to report to the ethics board en mass, or practice without ethics. Make a choice.

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Devon Stavrowsky's avatar

You clearly have ethics that a lot of people in and around the medical profession don't have today. Where I live, the shots were being given out in a production line. Yes people signed their consent to get the vax.... but no way were 99% of the people getting it evaluated by a doctor. The total evaluation by the nurse who injected me was, "Do you have any known allergies? No? Sign this." Then she filled-out and handed me my card and told me to wait for 30 minutes before leaving the office, and rushed to get the next patient in. Boom end of story.

Sure, they can hand you a fact sheet. Which you're probably NOT going to understand, and they're not waiting around for you to read it. They closed-up the family medicine clinic at the hospital at normal time, then re-opened for two hours to give injections.... to about thirty people waiting in the waiting room. It was as production line as you could make it, and I guarantee you no doctors had a clue about the medical condition of the people getting it. And a doubt many patients read the fact sheet. I went in for my annual wellness visit the following month and my doctor was completely unaware I had even been vaccinated.

Mind you.... I'm not criticizing the nurses who were giving out the shots. At the time people were dropping over dead from the virus, and the vaccines were being given under EUA. My problem is with Fauci, and Byrx, and Big Farma and the government.... all of whom there is a ton of evidence to suggest widely knew better.

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suzanna's avatar

About 2-3 years ago I heard a rumor and asked about it in the store (near an hour away)

and the woman in the photo dept. confirmed and elaborated just a bit. Last week I read a

thorough document compiled by Naomi Wolf proving China is manufacturing all things

covid in the NE US. Like the movie, Babe, with the little pig that wants to be a border collie,

one sheep says to another..."I think they are in on it together"... and while the crisis' are real

for the simple people and we have a wrecked country already, don't underestimate the degree

to which they will go to distract and scare us. All this while we waste time theorizing...but I am betting there is not the conflict we imagine. Taiwan and Ukraine as triggers for WWIII?

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suzanna's avatar

They are all in it together and wealth and power offered/promised to every participant.

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suzanna's avatar

Yikes, the beginning of my comment dissipated

Indeed one may hold culpable everyone acting to harm others/no excuses.

The store that merged operations with China is Walgreens.

Sorry for so much stuff..

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Renee Marie's avatar

And those same nurses and doctors didn’t inform people about the CURE for CONvid (a damn cold/flu). I told nurses at my job that there’s something that cures CONvid…they ignored me. The price of not being informed can be deadly.

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