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Janet's avatar

The Hunga Tonga undersea volcano in 2022 released so much heated water into the atmosphere and sea water that that it caused a rise in ocean temps. Right after that climate change fools started screaming the oceans are boiling. But never mentioned aHunga Tonga. CNN, MSNBC, NPR @and the rest of the government propaganda arms didn’t tell us that. The carbon they want gone is you and me.

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Yes, the Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption may well have, indeed, almost certainly has had, an effect on raising atmospheric temperatures. I've read that the eruption injected approximately 400,000 tons of water vapor into the stratosphere, raising the concentration by 10-15%, which is significant because water vapor is a potent greenhouse gas, much more potent than carbon dioxide is. By some estimates, this could have led to a net atmospheric warming effect of about 0.1°C to 0.5°C in the short term.

However, I doubt very much that this could have caused a significant rise in ocean temperatures. Overall, the mass of the oceans is roughly 270 times greater than the mass of the atmosphere, and the surface of the oceans in contact with the atmosphere is on the order of 1,000 times the density of the air in the lower atmosphere above it, so the oceans have a much greater heat capacity than the atmosphere. This means that they can absorb much more heat without experiencing the same degree of temperature change.

As a result, a massive rise in atmospheric temperature will not correspond directly to a similar increase in ocean temperature. The analogy I like to use is of a bathtub full of water. By heating the water in the bath with a water heater, you will also raise find that the temperature of the air in the bathroom goes up perceptibly, but by heating the air, you will find it very difficult to raise the temperature of the bathwater. And this is one experiment that folks can try at home.

In the case of the Earth, the main mechanism is that radiation in the form of sunshine heats the oceans and the land, which then heat the atmosphere, mainly conduction and convection. There is always a lot more going on and more than one way of describing it, but in short, basic physics tells us that the atmosphere doesn't heat the oceans significantly, regardless of the concentration of greenhouse gasses, and this fact is ignored by the people trying to promote the manmade global warming/climate change narrative.

Ask them to explain the mechanism by which the extra heat is transferred to the oceans. They will quickly try to complicate things or move into outright mumbo jumbo.

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Tim Groves's avatar

What do you mean by"the heat"? What do you mean by "not escaping to space"? And what do you mean by "it"?

No, don't bother trying to answer. Just keep writing pejoratives like "WTF?"

That way you are bound to get your points across, win your arguments, make friends, and influence people. Well done!

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Steve C's avatar

^^^^EXACTLY!!^^^^^

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Tricia C's avatar

Thank you!

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