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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

My oldest has been getting flu shots since he was old enough to get them in Japan, which I think is from 2. Not happy. Wife, Japanese, and I have argued about it several times, especially since they still got the flu 2 years out of the first 4 they took it. Can’t really call in effective. But I was led to believe that it was required for school. The kid also got the Chicken Pox shot. Didn’t even know it existed until I saw it on his shot record. Why in the hell do we need a shot for chicken pox?

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Tim's avatar

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/abs/10.7326/M19-3075?journalCode=aim

Have a look at this massive NHS study that found flu vaccine has zero benefit in stopping hospitalisation or death from flu for the elderly.

They pump it into people but they know it provides no benefit.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Thanks, more ammo for a fight that never will be. Not a negative comment on your efforts nor the article you send, just that I have never been able to bring the facts I have to near on any argument.

I have been offered the flu shot through work but do not take it. I have had the flu only 3 times as an adult, the last just a couple of months ago. Just a useless risk. Not happy my wife has our kids get it. She works for Pf, so it could be worse. They haven’t had the clot shot.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Do not take any shots, vaccines, or otherwise.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

I agree.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Too late. They are of the age that they have already had all the required shots for school.

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Bernard Tamosaitis's avatar

I remember we all got it naturally as kids in the 60's and acquired lifelong immunity in the process.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

As did I and my siblings in the 70s. And for me at least, I did not even feel sick in the slightest. Only had these itchy bumps that would leave a scar if I popped them.

My grand father was saved by them. He escaped having them as a child and fought chicken pox while he was in the navy in WW2. He was in the navy hospital when his ship was sunk by a U-boat with only 3 survivors. Imagine if they had a vaccine against CP when he was young.

CP is one of those diseases that for most is little more than nothing but help train our immune systems. There is simply no need for a vaccine for it. Worse, it apparently increases the likelihood of catching it again in a different form later in life.

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