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Just Comment's avatar

Is it required to have a Vet in America ?

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Deborah Weaver's avatar

Yes, to get your dog an annual dog license, you have to get certain vaccines annually, plus you need miscellaneous treatments - for ticks, fleas, eye care, or what have you. Otherwise, you are not allowed to have dogs. I'm sure it varies by state laws.

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Soul On A Journey's avatar

You can find certain vets that still do titers . Also if you don’t leave your dog in commercial daycare, no one is checking what treatments or vaccines you give them except the initial series which are given in the first few months . After that you really don’t have to take them to a vet unless it’s an emergency situation

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

The issue is if you do have an emergency, that's when they demand proof of rabies vaccination or no treatment.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

We have a homeopathic vet who partners with a local, privately owned clinic for emergencies. We’ve had no issues with our dog’s unvaccinated status. She passed last week (cancer), and she was treated well despite having no vaccinations for the past seven years…including rabies. I stopped paying the city’s licensing fees, as well. It’s hard to find the good ones, but they’re out there 💗.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

You have an exceptionally unique situation that most do not have access to.

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Kathryn Caldwell's avatar

Dr. Will Falconer, Holistic Vet, provides a list of homeopathic vets in the U.S. who will help with all this vaccinosis. He has a Substack platform and is very knowledgeable.

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John Roberts's avatar

Kathryn

Thanks for your suggestion about Dr. Falconer.

Great site with lots of very good information. This will be very helpful since I quit vaccinating my cat 4 years ago. This may be a true life saver for my cat.

Thanks again !!!

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Deborah Weaver's avatar

Can you provide a link to his Substack account? I cannot find it... Thank you!

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I live in an uber liberal city in an uber liberal county in uber liberal Colorado. Thank goodness I tapped into the medical freedom folks here, or I never would have known…

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rjt's avatar

And recall, as in the Covid plan, that antibody levels are a (profitable) surrogate for immunity.

IgG is less useful for a respiratory virus than IgA.

It will be interesting if RFK Jr. is confirmed as HHS Secretary to see if the veterinary arrangement is exposed. One of my good friends has experienced "Mars" vet treatment for his dog. I will send him this article. Thanks.

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Deborah Weaver's avatar

Our Town Hall requires copies of vaccination update shots to get a Dog License every year. Again, it varies by state…

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RedLetterMom's avatar

I don’t license my dog because I don’t want to vaccinate her on the recommended schedule.

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Susan Clack's avatar

Sounds like our local Gubmint is forcing pet parents to be outlaws if you don't want your fur baby to endure annual jabs ... Time to make the word Maverick meaningful again (J.McShame is long gone now). 💔

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Michelle's avatar

My county went house to house knocking on doors listening for barking to find and fine household with unlicensed dogs. A conservative county in WA state. This happened a few years ago.

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Susan Clack's avatar

There was a progressive in charge of that division, sounds like! I was born in Klickitat County, grew up in Pierce County and left the state in 1984...I have a hard time "going home" to see my 91 yr old mother in Lakewood. Too many people up there now! 🥴

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rjt's avatar

You should always name the county and any official you can identify.

Anonymity is power.

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Michelle's avatar

Franklin County, WA. It’s been several years ago, so don’t remember names.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Ours, too. But I stopped paying. Trashed the bills, and never heard from the city again 😜.

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Sanber's avatar

Dog licenses are contracts not laws, here in Canada anyways.

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Völva's avatar

We adopted a very traumatized dog who was fear aggressive, his fear centered around men (and long objects like sticks). To my understanding, if he were to bite a person he’d have to be put down if he wasn’t vaccinated for rabies, so I went along with that one vaccine (and no others, despite the incredibly hostile and pushy vet).

It made him very itchy, to the point that he has destroyed his ears despite being in a cone all the time. We tried to veterinary treatments for this, both nearly killed him. Poor thing still itches all the time and only gets to be without the cone for walks.

It’s an evil industry.

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Kent's avatar

BUY some brewers yeast (not the Torula yeast) and sprinkle a little in a dog dish. Not much, maybe about a teaspoon and see if your dog takes to it. Most will. Dont use a "fortified" one with added minerals etc...just the plain yeast powder) See if the ingestion of the B vitamins in the yeast, will help your dog's itchiness. My bet is it will. Then after that once a week of the yeast should do it to maintain.

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Loretta's avatar

You're an angel.

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JustANobody's avatar

I take it too. I have read that Brewers Yeast keeps ticks and fleas away. I follow Veterinary Secrets on Screw Tube and he talks about this. Also lots of remedies that won't kill your pet.

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Völva's avatar

Thank you, I’ll definitely try that. Our dog eats only meat, no kibble, so one might think he gets enough B vitamins, but I’m quite sure he’ll eat the yeast. Thanks again for the suggestion, much appreciated!

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Kent's avatar

If you can't find the powder in your basic health food store (not GNC) look for the tablets and crush them up. I think you'll be surprised how your pet likes it. They wont need it everyday but maybe once a week or so. You'll have to judge it. Some of us humans, its good for too but its not tasty, so you have to disguise it in good tasting juice....its a pain to get down but wait til you see how it makes you feel later. A lot of the B vitamins we buy are synthetically made in labs from who know what. The B you get from the REAL brewers yeast is natural (not made from coal tar or some odd petroleum product)......the vitamin industry has been compromised too, so you have be careful what you're taking to make sure its not something artificially made from some other industry's waste products. A fellow Substack writer Agent131711 did a DEEP dive into how B vitamins and Vit C are made artificially and it wasnt music to my ears. He did expose an industry we've trusted for years that is now owned by Big Pharma and China

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Diana's avatar

is this the same as nutritional yeast sold at health food stores? if so, it's really good sprinkled on popcorn :-)

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aj hollis's avatar

If a vet was pushy and aggressive to me in regard my animals well being, I'd just walk out.

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Loretta's avatar

https://substack.com/@willfalconerdvm/posts

Maybe ask him what to do about the itch.

Hope that helps. Poor baby abused doggy.

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Brewer55's avatar

I'm in GA and my vet understands my concerns about vaccinations but, they all but refuse to do the periodic blood tests (our cat has anemia) unless he has his rabies shot. He no longer gets all the other BS vaxx's.

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RedLetterMom's avatar

The whole idea of needing to vaccinate pets for rabies is kinda absurd unless you live in the forest or in a city overrun by rats. Even then, it’s questionable as rabid animals typically die quickly. Regardless, the rabies vax actually lasts more like 7-10 years (not 2). My current dog has only had her initial puppy shots and 1 rabies shots. She’s 3 years old and super healthy…hasn’t been to the vet since her first visit as a puppy.

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GK's avatar

I adopted a kitten who hadn't had his rabies shot (and won't be getting one in the future either). The people who run the adoption agency aren't hardcore on the shots, they just want to find homes for way more cats than there are homes for.

Since my cat will be an indoor cat, and never ever be outside, or boarded, I asked how vets can justify rabies shots when there is virtually zero chance of him getting bitten by a wild animal. Apparently, vets counter with, "Well, what if a rabid bat gets in your house?" Yeah, that happens all the time.

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Kat Bro's avatar

"Oh! But it does!"

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Diana's avatar

When I lived rurally my one cat would bring little bats into the house. No one ever got bit and no one ever got rabies.

I have three shelter kittens and once they had the shots before adoption they haven't had any further injections. When I've had to take them to emergency vet on occasion they ask about vaccines I just say "they're up to date". End of discussion. I do not take them for routine check ups.

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aj hollis's avatar

Such regulations are legal fiction , as is a dog licence. Refuse to enter into a contract with them.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Aside from each state law about rabies shots, there are no legal requirements for any other shots or ‘miscellaneous’ treatments. Unless you insist on boarding or grooming, there are no additional requirements. I don’t board and I found a groomer who doesn’t have foolish requests. My vet knows I don’t do animal vaccines, either. Only the ‘required’ rabies.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Same💗

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pimaCanyon's avatar

ugh! No treatments for ticks or fleas, they are toxic. Fortunately we live in an area that does not enforce the license rule. We took our dog to the vet only a couple of times during her 15 year life. She was healthy, never had a tick or flea problem, never got sick. We fed her a raw diet that included a lot of raw green tripe from grass fed cows. Also a small amount of lightly cooked liver also from grass fed cows.

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Völva's avatar

What is a dog license? I’ve never heard of such a thing. I’m in the Midwest.

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aj hollis's avatar

Just one more fraud to push profitable authoritarianism, just thank them for their invitation to treat, and decline the offer.

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JustANobody's avatar

Just like a registration for your car. Its a racket.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

In CA one must register the dogs/cats for a license to own and vaccinate. They say it regulates the disease potential and the proper care and home etc. Lots of people do abuse pets around here and just abandon them too. I am against licenses and vaccines as well but there could be something else which provides the needed oversite, like policing for animals sakes.

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sadie's avatar

Not exactly. In some places you can get rabies, parvo, distemper from county office. Good idea to have a vet in case of emergency though. In some states you get initial vaccines then the rabies is every 3 yrs to get licensed.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

About 10 years ago, when my sweet kitty was sick, my vet refused to examine him unless I agreed to let her give him all the required shots he "needed."

I felt as if I had no choice but to comply. I'm relieved that I know better now.

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Loretta's avatar

My question to these pet doctors is, you say you want to save our pets but won't treat them when in need without some stupid shot, maybe you don't really like animals at all. Leave then. Give them something to think about.

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Sharon's avatar

That is so moronic. You don't give pets or anyone vaccines when they're sick. They don't need them at all. The same thing with child well care visits - it's all a scam to follow the stupid up to date CDC vaccine schedule. All about the profits for the medical and pharma companies.

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