Dr Bailey (Virus Mania) and Christine Massey that does the FOIAs about Sars-Cov-2 and other viruses have attempted to reach out to Kirsch and he initially engaged them, and then ghosted them entirely.
https://drsambailey.com/the-covid-sceptics-who-spread-viral-dogma/
https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-i-now-re…
Dr Bailey (Virus Mania) and Christine Massey that does the FOIAs about Sars-Cov-2 and other viruses have attempted to reach out to Kirsch and he initially engaged them, and then ghosted them entirely.
What do all 3 have in common? They either debunked germ theory entirely, or had integrity in sharing their research. They had nothing to gain by playing both sides. Kirsch has no SCIENTIFIC reason to use money as a ruse to debate people.....except perhaps to convince a public who assumes only rich people have common sense and/or research skills that they should just believe what a rich man says to pay attention to.
Some of the best limited hangouts give you some truth, but serve as a distraction from the larger wins (E.g. what's in the vial? How accurate can Covid "case" stats be with the current (and historical) PCR testing methods? Why did CDC recommend marking death certificates a dying OF covid-19....let alone as a primary cause of death?)
I am open to the possibility of germ theory being bunk, but I have a load of questions that I would like to ask someone in that camp and for the time being I am still in the germ theory camp.
The adenovirus vectors for example. We are able to manipulate a virus enough that it will produce the spike protein as expected. Is that explainable by other means?
Like any belief, it is your choice to attach or not. Even if you do BELIEVE in germ theory, you still need to show that the entity you call virus
- can be isolated completely from any other material
- fully isolated virus can then be applied to another host in a way that mimics nature (e.g. use a brush or aerial spray and spray these isolated virus particles
- observe the symptoms that occur.
And of course document the whole procedure, including the controls used (e.g. the group of people/animals given placebo or no alleged virus exposure).
Not just the virologist simply pointing to something on a photo and declaring [with an arrow] "this is a [name] virus" among a bunch of other material in the "isolate" fluid.
No live virus actually meets this definition to date, including the alleged rhinovirus mentioned in your article. There is a 16 min video that summarizes the scientific "method" regarding how viruses are actually declared viruses: https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/the-truth-about-viruses:a
Toxicity does not require any virus particles used to explain itself. Food/water/air quality, sunlight, and other stressors...particularly the "nocebo effect". And other environmental factors.
I get the "not fully isolated" line as well, but that doesn't go any way to explaining the two points I raised. How would you explain the ferrets "transmitting" through a filter too small for bacteria?
You are 100%! IG Farben is responsible for the chemical poison in WWII-Zyklon B. Think they stopped? Of course not. They probably just changed their name and their shtick.
Dr Bailey (Virus Mania) and Christine Massey that does the FOIAs about Sars-Cov-2 and other viruses have attempted to reach out to Kirsch and he initially engaged them, and then ghosted them entirely.
https://drsambailey.com/the-covid-sceptics-who-spread-viral-dogma/
https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-i-now-refuse-to-debate
https://drsambailey.com/warnings-signs-you-have-been-tricked-by-virologists-again/
Mathew Crawford was doing some research regarding the DMED and other related research and was on Kirsch's vaccine steering committee, but resigned due to Steve apparently not wanting to work on his own committee. https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/i/89588522/focus-on-what-is-important-fraud
edit: Ray i think also tried to engage him previously: https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/steve-kirsch-is-challenging-again
What do all 3 have in common? They either debunked germ theory entirely, or had integrity in sharing their research. They had nothing to gain by playing both sides. Kirsch has no SCIENTIFIC reason to use money as a ruse to debate people.....except perhaps to convince a public who assumes only rich people have common sense and/or research skills that they should just believe what a rich man says to pay attention to.
Some of the best limited hangouts give you some truth, but serve as a distraction from the larger wins (E.g. what's in the vial? How accurate can Covid "case" stats be with the current (and historical) PCR testing methods? Why did CDC recommend marking death certificates a dying OF covid-19....let alone as a primary cause of death?)
I am open to the possibility of germ theory being bunk, but I have a load of questions that I would like to ask someone in that camp and for the time being I am still in the germ theory camp.
The adenovirus vectors for example. We are able to manipulate a virus enough that it will produce the spike protein as expected. Is that explainable by other means?
This article here describes an experiment where ferrets we able to be contagious through a filter too small for bacteria to pass through https://trusttheevidence.substack.com/p/why-we-should-never-use-the-f-word.
Like any belief, it is your choice to attach or not. Even if you do BELIEVE in germ theory, you still need to show that the entity you call virus
- can be isolated completely from any other material
- fully isolated virus can then be applied to another host in a way that mimics nature (e.g. use a brush or aerial spray and spray these isolated virus particles
- observe the symptoms that occur.
And of course document the whole procedure, including the controls used (e.g. the group of people/animals given placebo or no alleged virus exposure).
Not just the virologist simply pointing to something on a photo and declaring [with an arrow] "this is a [name] virus" among a bunch of other material in the "isolate" fluid.
No live virus actually meets this definition to date, including the alleged rhinovirus mentioned in your article. There is a 16 min video that summarizes the scientific "method" regarding how viruses are actually declared viruses: https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/the-truth-about-viruses:a
Toxicity does not require any virus particles used to explain itself. Food/water/air quality, sunlight, and other stressors...particularly the "nocebo effect". And other environmental factors.
I get the "not fully isolated" line as well, but that doesn't go any way to explaining the two points I raised. How would you explain the ferrets "transmitting" through a filter too small for bacteria?
In fairness, raw milk doesn’t keep long, 10-14 days if you keep it REALLY cold.
If you don’t kept it cold it gets stinky quickly.
That said, raw milk for the win.
DEFINITELY!
Aging rm stinks to high heaven.
You’re welcome to keep ours and we’ll drink fresh.
The keifer is a cure for a very healthy gut. Pasteurization takes the nutrients out of what always made people healthy.
And remember, Pasteur was a liar.
Where did your research come from?
Probably the same place everyone’s research comes from. FUBAR
Have you herd of goat keifer? I understand that it’s a natural cure for the gut.
GREAT FOR THE GUT!
WOW…you’re awake!
The “medical cartel” has been making us sick for decades!
💥💥WILLIAM...EXCELLENT COMMENT!💥💥
You are 100%! IG Farben is responsible for the chemical poison in WWII-Zyklon B. Think they stopped? Of course not. They probably just changed their name and their shtick.
I commented on the Crawford thing below before i read your comment. Very strange for Steve to just leave Mat hanging.