One guy who signed Epstein in six or seven times at the Clinton Whitehouse was so upset that he snuck onto a ranch, tossed an extension cord over a limb, tied it around his neck and shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.
The whole " I'm writing a book " thing might have played a role in it. Funny how the taped up fingers was just shrugged off by the media. They admitted his fingers were taped up and said it was a common practice for golfers. Apparently Obama had trouble getting the tape on. How else could he possibly have gotten that shiner?
I hope the whole list gets exposed and it should be. Keeping that list hidden from the public should’ve never been allowed. Two sets of rules drives me crazy.
Exposed or not; it's a CERTAINTY of this group of ESTABLISHMENT Demons Wearing Human Being Suits being that behind the attempted legalization of the taboos of Pedophilia/Incest at the U.N. to RE-INSTITUTIONALIZE PAGANISM BRUTALITY AND DEPRAVITY into the world over 'The Bible' and Judeo-Christianity as well as The Constitution of the United States.
All of this goes to show NO ONE is policing the 1%. This is why nothing changes when you vote. This is why pedophilia is so predominantly attributed to the 1%. There are TWO sets of laws in the US...one for us and none of the 1%. Think back and try to remember the last time any 1% was sentenced to jail, had anti-trust action, or even forced to give up $$. Until the people rise up and demand justice or take it in their own hands, nothing will be done. Historically speaking, we need our own version of Tribunal révolutionnaire.
Exactly. It’s very discouraging to me that there don’t seem to be any repercussions for what’s been exposed. Has America become this corrupt? I hold the mainstream media partly responsible--they choose to ignore information that doesn’t advance their underlying philosophy. What chance do we have when this is the case?
Historically whenever a system of governance breaks down to the point cold-blooded mass murdering amoral traitors run amok polite society eventually grows a pair and eliminates them.
In the lead-up the scumbags hurt a lot of people. They know nice people abhor hurting other people and for a time will buy into their bullshit to avoid conflict so, they have the advantage. Plus, it appears many in top law enforcement are predictably in their pocket.
It takes large swaths of despair, desperation and hopelessness before normies have their inevitable epiphany, put down their differences and come together to take care of the problem. We are not there yet.
Sheesh. Alexander Hamilton was a stooge for the Rothschilds. This country's elite have always been corrupt. Government is not the same thing as country.
If it at least allows regular people to make up their own minds about the issue, it's worth exposing the pedophiles. However, the very existance of these list(s) seems almost a bit contrived; who would keep a written list unless the purpose would be to expose others. Why would Epstein actually put his 'clients' into a such a 'compromisable' position?
I like that you don’t swallow everything at face value. Indicates you are smart. Nobody knows how much of anything we are told is real or contrived. Sometimes it’s best to focus on the things right under our noses that obviously don’t add up. There’s a lot of meat on the bone that gets deflected by sensationalism.
Why have we allowed those that visited Epstein's house of horrors to evade prosecution? We have been too kind to his customers while ignoring his victims. Time for that to change.
People who don’t work usually are up to no good. Generational wealth creates the worst kind of people. There is a humanitarian argument for 99% estate taxes upon death.
Take the wealth accumulated over a lifetime and hand it over to the politicians in the employ of the very oligarchs you’re going to take it from? I don’t see how that pencils out.
Just have an LVT as Capitalists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo would promote. then you'll be taxing title (or charging for the government product we call title) not work and the unearned money will dwindle far faster.
I went through the New York Magazine names listed awhile back. Besides the salicious stars, models, politicians and CEO's named the number of medical scientists who specialize in virologoy, infectious disease, evolutionary design of microbes, testing, tracing, there's many social scientists who specialize in psychology, behaviorism, linguistic deceit, manipulation and coercion. And computer programmers developing AI, human-computer interfaces, transhumanism. And, yes, the eugenicists who use all of the specialized sciences to rid the world of the generations of imbeciles they've had enough of.
And a common trait I noticed while researching the names that runs through nearly every single one of them: Atheism. They call themselves a variety of names, many humanists and futurists. But God is irrelevant to them. A fiction. A pacifier for the ignorant masses too stupid to realize God is a myth. These are people who believe they are the real God's. And seeking their own means to immortality to prove it. And many have a fascination with occult ritualism and symbols.
This isn't a coincidence.
Epstein didn't kill himself. And it may well be that his book of pedophiles wasn't even the biggest secret he was carrying that he was killed for, dead men telling no tales and all.
As many here have so rightly noted, nothing will happen: they will not lose their societal status nor livelihoods, there will be no trials, & no hangings or lengthy jail sentences. Our now Elitist Government & its Agencies, our Political UniParty, & our Judicial systems have turned into a swamp of Leftist philosophies, masquerading as upstanding Citizens bent upon doing what they perceive as doing right for us, because we are too stupid to know what that is for ourselves.
By having this philosophy, they justify their aberrant & criminal behavior because these laws & mores are just meant for "the ignorant masses", & not for their highly educated selves.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Here I share with you a quote by the great C. S. Lewis, from his 1948 book God in the Dock: Essays on Theology:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."
"As many here have so rightly noted, nothing will happen: they will not lose their societal status nor livelihoods, there will be no trials, & no hangings or lengthy jail sentences. Our now Elitist Government & its Agencies, our Political UniParty, & our Judicial systems have turned into a swamp of Leftist philosophies, masquerading as upstanding Citizens bent upon doing what they perceive as doing right for us, because we are too stupid to know what that is for ourselves."
AMEN to that. Too stupid, gullible, ignorant, and at the levels of those with wealth and "assets," too GREEDY!
The system that they've created thrives on generating wealth for the gatekeepers that it has set up to make it work. Doctors most notably recently, Lawyers of course, our "indispensible invaluable" teachers and professors that phuck up the minds of and demoralize our youth (their parents paying for it says something else altogether), etc.
They OWN the "society" that generates their statuses.
We've seen what they support, most recently the wholesale frying and incineration of humans, pets, animals, and vegetation in Lahaina.
At the end of the day it's their system, that they've set up to control everyone in it, to one extent or another, via debt.
We could upheave it in a second and have our own Reset, by declaring a global debt forgiveness action. Reset it all so that Big-Corps, THEIR Big-Corps NETWORK, doesn't own anything anymore.
BUT, we're too smart for that. Those among us that have wealth and assets, particularly pointing at the self-proclaimed "christians" here, refuse to relinquish their mammon in it all. Many of the rest wouldn't care because they're not losing much, they, like the greedy ones as well, would gain, but the greedy mammon-worshipers can't see through the charade.
What was it that Jesus said, ... oh yeah, that it was more difficult for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it was for a rich man to enter his Kingdom.
There also seems to be something in there about not being able to worship God and mammon both. But "advances" in Biblical understanding and exegesis, spawned by our good "Judeo-Christian" buddies, the Babylonian Talmudists, the sons of hell and haters of Christ, have rendered Christs words as such no longer true.
While there is much I agree with in your comment, but I disagree with this blanket, bigoted statement of yours:
"But "advances" in Biblical understanding and exegesis, spawned by our good "Judeo-Christian" buddies, the Babylonian Talmudists, the sons of hell and haters of Christ, have rendered Christs words as such no longer true."
As a Jew since birth, Consecrated, Bar Mitzvah'd, & Confirmed in Judaism (tho certainly not a scholar), I & most of the Jews I know are not "sons of Hell, haters of Christ".
For a whole year in my Sunday School education, we studied all the World's religions, & as a class, we went to 5 different Christian Churches for Sunday services. I found it fascinating in our similarities & our differences, & saw no "hate" from either side.
I know of nothing in our writings that commands hate of Christians or Jesus, & I was never taught any of that. My best friend since the age of 13 (50 yrs ago) has always been a devout Catholic, & we have always enjoyed discussing & enjoying many aspects of each others faiths.
I have many good friends who are Christian, & have attended baby Baptisms, Consecrations, weddings
& even a full, Latin Mass Wedding! I go to Christmas parties & have been to friends houses for Christmas & Easter, & they have come to our Hanukkahs, Passovers, & to the Bar Mitzvahs of both our sons.
I am honored when wished a hearty Merry Christmas by Christians who do not know I am Jewish, for they are just graciously including me in the joy of their Holyday! I respond with "I happen to be Jewish, but am honored that you wish me Merry Christmas, & a Merry Christmas to you!" 95% of responses are a big smile & "Thank you, & Happy Hanukkah to you!"
The only religion I know of that commands hate & even extortion, slavery, or the deaths of those they cannot convert, is islam. But not all who are moslem follow that command, & are good people (tho too many still do, & even kill their own for not being moslem enough).
Sure, there are bad Jews & also bad people of all faiths in our World, & if you really wish to cast bigoted aspersions, as there are far more Christians in the World vs Jews, statistically, there must be more "bad" Christians, than "bad" Jews!
Yes, I read your comment, & as you know I am Jewish, you might know that it is Yom Kippur, so web time is limited.
I knew the correct responses to most of your questions, but have some digging into, on some of your statements.
As we will have our 2 young Gkids this week, I will not have the time to dig in to what I need to on this, in order to give you a proper response.....they wear us out, & bedtime comes early for all!
I was up to p, now I'm back to z, & will respond next week.
Actually, no on both accounts. I had an infection of my foot that wouldn't quit, & tho now all cleaned up, thru the progressively more intensive medical testing I went thru, culminating in a heart catheterization, we discovered that I have 70, 80, & 90% occlusion of 3 of the 4 Coronary Arteries. The occlusions are long enough, that stents aren't an option, so I'm busy with interviewing Chest Crackers, & doing what I can to prep.
As I am unjabbed, & have a family history, the KungFlu or the Government Death Shot are not the culprits. I am just extremely lucky that we caught this now, because I am completely a-symptomatic.
At this point 37, I really don't know when I'll be able to put the time into revisiting this, but if you're still game, ping me again in about 6 months, & we'll take it from there. However, if I don't respond....I may be takin' the long, dirt nap! ;-)
I cannot even begin to tell you how happy I am that you responded as you did. I fully appreciate your response, and am hopeful that you are in fact entirely sincere. I understand where you’re coming from. As well, in your zeal for candor and openess, I too will write succinctly. I wish we had a larger audience as well. I’m also quite glad that you used the word “bigot(ed)” for reasons that will emerge.
Allow me to do a few things here. First, to parse your statement for purposes of clarification and to address your statements. Secondly, to point out the implications of your own statements. Thirdly, to keep the focus of our exchange to the specific topic at hand. Fourth, to ask you some questions that I trust you will answer honestly, similarly to how I am addressing the points made in your response, although you have asked no direct questions as I will. I will index the questions for purposes of our discussion.
As well, I have read your responses to Renee Marie.
To start, let’s clarify, YOU are the one that brought the term “Jew/Jewish” to the discussion, not I. I quite specifically referred to Babylonian Talmudists. There is a notable difference.
On that note, …
A. Do you understand Zionism? (without looking it up)
B. Do you know who Theodor Herzl was? (without looking him up)
Which brings up the next point. Your implication is that you are an adherent to the Talmud. Well, are you? Do you consider yourself to be Talmudist?
You appear to be quite ignorant of what the Talmud actually preaches, which is why I ask. Nor do you preach what that Talmud does, you preach somewhat contrarily to the extent of even contradicting it.
As well, there are Jewish people that would make this case for me, many even prominent ones. One such person is Miko Peled, who wrote The General’s Son. Then of course there are others like Brother Nathaniel who lay things out more politically. They’re barely a drop in the bucket. Either way, I have hundreds if not over a thousand quotes catalogued, from the very ilk that I mention, that I’ll provide as necessary along the way in our discussion. You’ll be arguing with them, not me at that point.
To your statements …
To your third para, you may not be, but THEY are.
C. Are you claiming to be an adherent of the Talmud?
D. Are you aware of what the Talmud preaches in the context of your statements?
In your 4th para, you’re merely looking at the most superficial aspects of societal religious behavior, which to your point defines the vast majority of it, yet superficial it is. That’s why for instance there are Catholics that “don’t agree with everything that the Pope says,” which is the definition of Catholic, adhering to everything that the Pope says. Or muslims that don’t adhere to all that Koran says, same there. We could go on, but that’s largely a tangent.
On a side note, I would also ask why you define yourself as “Jewish.”
E. Is Jewish a race then? Or a religion?
I ask because there are implied accusations of “racism” on my part in your comments to Renee Marie.
In your 5th para, you said “our writings.”
F. What do YOU consider to be “our writings”? The Talmud?
As to friends of other religions, I have a bunch of “Jewish” friends. Some would take up my position in our discussion arduously. As with you, I do not let religious background define who my friends are or are not. Honestly and integrity are first and foremost there.
As I mentioned, as we go along, I will provide quotes for you, entirely verifiable ones, that argue contrarily what you’re saying, from “Jewish” people.
Your next several paras are relatively superficial standard-variety fluff in being honest. Good to know, but largely irrelevant to the context here.
I’ve known many muslims over the years given where I live. Not one has ever even given me a remote reason to believe that they’re hostile to Christians or our society here. No doubt there are some, but I’ve not run into them.
We are good friends with a muslim family whose father figure managed to escape the horrors of Palestine. Yet not before having witnessed up close the slicing in half of his best friend by Israeli soldiers on one of their typical “Judeo-Christian” binges. His recounting of it brings tears to my eyes.
They celebrate both Christmas and Ramadan, arguably the former more ardently. As a mere single example.
Let’s focus on your last two paras.
In the second to last you say “The only religion I know of that commands hate & even extortion, slavery, or the deaths of those they cannot convert, is islam.”
Again, I defer to the Talmud, which by implication you support. True, or not?
G. How does the Talmud classify non-Talmudists/Jews?
H. Which is worse, the statements about Christ and Christians in the Talmud, or the Koran?
Again, it may be good to educate yourself before making statements. I’m looking forward to the answers to these questions.
Finally, as to your last para, …
“Sure, there are bad Jews & also bad people of all faiths in our World, & if you really wish to cast bigoted aspersions, as there are far more Christians in the World vs Jews, statistically, there must be more "bad" Christians, than "bad" Jews!”
I’m not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. It’s not surprising that taylor.kathleen took issue with you there.
I will say in your favor that fundamentalist “christianity” certainly supports much of the Talmudic activity around the world due to its apostasy and heresy regarding the teachings of Christ & the Disciples. Nowhere in those writings are what’s going on today in the name of “Christianity” supported. Nowhere, despite their best attempts to do so.
However, one must also fully understand the Zionist underpinnings of that prior to assigning core blame for it.
To start, we really don’t have to look much further than the Middle East and Palestine for an epicenter of horrors. We’ll overlook the fact that almost all of the strife in the Middle Eastern Region is directly spawned by the nation of Israel.
But when one considers that extreme minority that “Jews,” again, your term for now, are, the imbalance is blatant.
It has accurately been said, “It is said that Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. But before the establishment of Israel, we had no enemies there.”
Closing question:
I. What was the first modern terrorist attack in the Middle East? (without looking it up)
For “modern,” let’s say post-WW II.
J. Who conducted that terrorist attack?
I will close by providing a quote by none other than Sir Winston Churchill. Remember, HE said it, not me.
“And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical."
"Zionism vs. Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People"
Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920, page 5
- Winston Churchill
Looking forward to your response and we’ll go from there. As well, I hope you’ll answer the questions, because they’re based upon what YOU said and there are significant implications re: YOUR statements in that matter.
We’ll begin to unwrap the true “bigotries” and “racism” once we get going.
I do not grasp why people call someone a bigot, or a racist because someone has a different point of view, or understands something differently. It’s become rampant in societies throughout the world.
Well, I rarely even feel the need to use either of those 2 words, but I pulled out one specific part of what 37 wrote, that seemed to me to fit that label, inserted it into my comment, & attempted to explain my reasoning.
In relation to 37's blanket accusation against my ancestors & those who adhere to my religion, I felt that was not a mere difference of opinion, but a bigoted statement that we are all that way.
My last blanket comparison was an attempt at a humorous use of the agreed upon, overused word: bigot.
I disagree with your understanding of what I wrote, but you are most certainly not a bigot for disagreeing with me. Lots of people disagree with me from time to time (just ask my wife), & I don't call them bigots, either.
After reading the client list, and reading Dr Peter McCullough's latest post about You Tube wiping out safety content .....maybe google has more motives to censor....!
Could this panic and fear being felt by alleged perverts, be comparable to the panic and fear that was being sold back at the start the pandemic, aka the perversion of viruses, its 'cures' and the entire medical industry. It is interesting to think about, for sure.
One guy who signed Epstein in six or seven times at the Clinton Whitehouse was so upset that he snuck onto a ranch, tossed an extension cord over a limb, tied it around his neck and shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.
You can't even be a chef for these guys without risking your life.
The whole " I'm writing a book " thing might have played a role in it. Funny how the taped up fingers was just shrugged off by the media. They admitted his fingers were taped up and said it was a common practice for golfers. Apparently Obama had trouble getting the tape on. How else could he possibly have gotten that shiner?
It's a certainty that the victims weren't the only one's waiting.
I hope the whole list gets exposed and it should be. Keeping that list hidden from the public should’ve never been allowed. Two sets of rules drives me crazy.
I am not a lawyer, but keeping that list hiden has a legal definition: Aiding and abetting.
Give them all a fair trial in the afternoon, and hang 'em first thing tomorrow morning.
Some famous guy or not said, "don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today."
I think it's better to let them roast at least one sleepless night.
I bet the Epstein customer list mirrors the list of members of Congress.
...., and the National Security Council, the DoS, the DoJ, the DoD and on, and on, and on.
Exposed or not; it's a CERTAINTY of this group of ESTABLISHMENT Demons Wearing Human Being Suits being that behind the attempted legalization of the taboos of Pedophilia/Incest at the U.N. to RE-INSTITUTIONALIZE PAGANISM BRUTALITY AND DEPRAVITY into the world over 'The Bible' and Judeo-Christianity as well as The Constitution of the United States.
All of this goes to show NO ONE is policing the 1%. This is why nothing changes when you vote. This is why pedophilia is so predominantly attributed to the 1%. There are TWO sets of laws in the US...one for us and none of the 1%. Think back and try to remember the last time any 1% was sentenced to jail, had anti-trust action, or even forced to give up $$. Until the people rise up and demand justice or take it in their own hands, nothing will be done. Historically speaking, we need our own version of Tribunal révolutionnaire.
The elite seem to harbor no fears of “frontier justice” - YET.
And why should they? All evidence shows that the masses are willing to suffer the insufferable.
Do exposés matter anymore? Lots of things have been exposed about a lot of bad things lately and…if it leads nowhere what does it matter?
Exactly. It’s very discouraging to me that there don’t seem to be any repercussions for what’s been exposed. Has America become this corrupt? I hold the mainstream media partly responsible--they choose to ignore information that doesn’t advance their underlying philosophy. What chance do we have when this is the case?
Historically whenever a system of governance breaks down to the point cold-blooded mass murdering amoral traitors run amok polite society eventually grows a pair and eliminates them.
In the lead-up the scumbags hurt a lot of people. They know nice people abhor hurting other people and for a time will buy into their bullshit to avoid conflict so, they have the advantage. Plus, it appears many in top law enforcement are predictably in their pocket.
It takes large swaths of despair, desperation and hopelessness before normies have their inevitable epiphany, put down their differences and come together to take care of the problem. We are not there yet.
Thanks GLK for your thoughtful reply. Your answer helps me.
Nonsense . All governments are evil, ours is no different.
French Revolution come to mind? Ours was remarkably 'peaceful' in comparison.
The French Revolution was a travesty.
Sheesh. Alexander Hamilton was a stooge for the Rothschilds. This country's elite have always been corrupt. Government is not the same thing as country.
🤔...wait, are you talking about the “Alexander Hamilton” who served with the VERY 1st President of the United States?
Yes. Founder of the Bank of New York.
That’s the problem! Everything exposed, NOTHING ever done!
Doesn't help when you inform people of some of this, the responses are:
- you're paranoid....get a life
- yawn
If it at least allows regular people to make up their own minds about the issue, it's worth exposing the pedophiles. However, the very existance of these list(s) seems almost a bit contrived; who would keep a written list unless the purpose would be to expose others. Why would Epstein actually put his 'clients' into a such a 'compromisable' position?
BLACKMAIL
I like that you don’t swallow everything at face value. Indicates you are smart. Nobody knows how much of anything we are told is real or contrived. Sometimes it’s best to focus on the things right under our noses that obviously don’t add up. There’s a lot of meat on the bone that gets deflected by sensationalism.
Blackmail or the threat of? It all adds up to power plays.
To blackmail them.
Yes they do. They shame individuals deserving of being shamed.
Why have we allowed those that visited Epstein's house of horrors to evade prosecution? We have been too kind to his customers while ignoring his victims. Time for that to change.
mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent
Adam Smith
And Maxwell is in “prison” for sex trafficking, apparently a crime in which women and children were trafficked to…NO ONE!!
This book has been up for over 3 years. This information has been shared on chat boards in some form or other since fall of 2017:
https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epsteins-black-book-unredacted-with-bonus-flight-logs-jeffrey-epstein
Paging the Pale Rider. Clean up in Aisle 3.
People who don’t work usually are up to no good. Generational wealth creates the worst kind of people. There is a humanitarian argument for 99% estate taxes upon death.
Take the wealth accumulated over a lifetime and hand it over to the politicians in the employ of the very oligarchs you’re going to take it from? I don’t see how that pencils out.
We’d have to redesign society after all the arrests☠️
Disagree.
Just have an LVT as Capitalists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo would promote. then you'll be taxing title (or charging for the government product we call title) not work and the unearned money will dwindle far faster.
I went through the New York Magazine names listed awhile back. Besides the salicious stars, models, politicians and CEO's named the number of medical scientists who specialize in virologoy, infectious disease, evolutionary design of microbes, testing, tracing, there's many social scientists who specialize in psychology, behaviorism, linguistic deceit, manipulation and coercion. And computer programmers developing AI, human-computer interfaces, transhumanism. And, yes, the eugenicists who use all of the specialized sciences to rid the world of the generations of imbeciles they've had enough of.
And a common trait I noticed while researching the names that runs through nearly every single one of them: Atheism. They call themselves a variety of names, many humanists and futurists. But God is irrelevant to them. A fiction. A pacifier for the ignorant masses too stupid to realize God is a myth. These are people who believe they are the real God's. And seeking their own means to immortality to prove it. And many have a fascination with occult ritualism and symbols.
This isn't a coincidence.
Epstein didn't kill himself. And it may well be that his book of pedophiles wasn't even the biggest secret he was carrying that he was killed for, dead men telling no tales and all.
There’s no way he’s dead... face reconstruction surgery... and off he goes. Little st James was “sold” to Stephen Deckoff...
“ It’s so obvious. Where is he buried? Who picked up the body? Why didn’t the cameras pick up the “murder/suicide? “
YES!!!
Is there a % off code for Vir-X?
VIR-X is sold out. A new superior formulation is coming in a few months. The code for all products is 2SGPET
PANIC? WHAT PANIC?
As many here have so rightly noted, nothing will happen: they will not lose their societal status nor livelihoods, there will be no trials, & no hangings or lengthy jail sentences. Our now Elitist Government & its Agencies, our Political UniParty, & our Judicial systems have turned into a swamp of Leftist philosophies, masquerading as upstanding Citizens bent upon doing what they perceive as doing right for us, because we are too stupid to know what that is for ourselves.
By having this philosophy, they justify their aberrant & criminal behavior because these laws & mores are just meant for "the ignorant masses", & not for their highly educated selves.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Here I share with you a quote by the great C. S. Lewis, from his 1948 book God in the Dock: Essays on Theology:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."
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HIs first sentence sure sums up the spring of 2020.
"As many here have so rightly noted, nothing will happen: they will not lose their societal status nor livelihoods, there will be no trials, & no hangings or lengthy jail sentences. Our now Elitist Government & its Agencies, our Political UniParty, & our Judicial systems have turned into a swamp of Leftist philosophies, masquerading as upstanding Citizens bent upon doing what they perceive as doing right for us, because we are too stupid to know what that is for ourselves."
AMEN to that. Too stupid, gullible, ignorant, and at the levels of those with wealth and "assets," too GREEDY!
The system that they've created thrives on generating wealth for the gatekeepers that it has set up to make it work. Doctors most notably recently, Lawyers of course, our "indispensible invaluable" teachers and professors that phuck up the minds of and demoralize our youth (their parents paying for it says something else altogether), etc.
They OWN the "society" that generates their statuses.
We've seen what they support, most recently the wholesale frying and incineration of humans, pets, animals, and vegetation in Lahaina.
At the end of the day it's their system, that they've set up to control everyone in it, to one extent or another, via debt.
We could upheave it in a second and have our own Reset, by declaring a global debt forgiveness action. Reset it all so that Big-Corps, THEIR Big-Corps NETWORK, doesn't own anything anymore.
BUT, we're too smart for that. Those among us that have wealth and assets, particularly pointing at the self-proclaimed "christians" here, refuse to relinquish their mammon in it all. Many of the rest wouldn't care because they're not losing much, they, like the greedy ones as well, would gain, but the greedy mammon-worshipers can't see through the charade.
What was it that Jesus said, ... oh yeah, that it was more difficult for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it was for a rich man to enter his Kingdom.
There also seems to be something in there about not being able to worship God and mammon both. But "advances" in Biblical understanding and exegesis, spawned by our good "Judeo-Christian" buddies, the Babylonian Talmudists, the sons of hell and haters of Christ, have rendered Christs words as such no longer true.
Titus 1 comes to mind, particularly v. 14.
37,
While there is much I agree with in your comment, but I disagree with this blanket, bigoted statement of yours:
"But "advances" in Biblical understanding and exegesis, spawned by our good "Judeo-Christian" buddies, the Babylonian Talmudists, the sons of hell and haters of Christ, have rendered Christs words as such no longer true."
As a Jew since birth, Consecrated, Bar Mitzvah'd, & Confirmed in Judaism (tho certainly not a scholar), I & most of the Jews I know are not "sons of Hell, haters of Christ".
For a whole year in my Sunday School education, we studied all the World's religions, & as a class, we went to 5 different Christian Churches for Sunday services. I found it fascinating in our similarities & our differences, & saw no "hate" from either side.
I know of nothing in our writings that commands hate of Christians or Jesus, & I was never taught any of that. My best friend since the age of 13 (50 yrs ago) has always been a devout Catholic, & we have always enjoyed discussing & enjoying many aspects of each others faiths.
I have many good friends who are Christian, & have attended baby Baptisms, Consecrations, weddings
& even a full, Latin Mass Wedding! I go to Christmas parties & have been to friends houses for Christmas & Easter, & they have come to our Hanukkahs, Passovers, & to the Bar Mitzvahs of both our sons.
I am honored when wished a hearty Merry Christmas by Christians who do not know I am Jewish, for they are just graciously including me in the joy of their Holyday! I respond with "I happen to be Jewish, but am honored that you wish me Merry Christmas, & a Merry Christmas to you!" 95% of responses are a big smile & "Thank you, & Happy Hanukkah to you!"
The only religion I know of that commands hate & even extortion, slavery, or the deaths of those they cannot convert, is islam. But not all who are moslem follow that command, & are good people (tho too many still do, & even kill their own for not being moslem enough).
Sure, there are bad Jews & also bad people of all faiths in our World, & if you really wish to cast bigoted aspersions, as there are far more Christians in the World vs Jews, statistically, there must be more "bad" Christians, than "bad" Jews!
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Hey Molon,
Did you ever get to my comments & questions?
I would enjoy engaging you further.
37,
Yes, I read your comment, & as you know I am Jewish, you might know that it is Yom Kippur, so web time is limited.
I knew the correct responses to most of your questions, but have some digging into, on some of your statements.
As we will have our 2 young Gkids this week, I will not have the time to dig in to what I need to on this, in order to give you a proper response.....they wear us out, & bedtime comes early for all!
I was up to p, now I'm back to z, & will respond next week.
Hey Molon,
I trust that you're doing well! : )
Have you given any thought or done any research on anything that we've discussed?
Hey 37,
Actually, no on both accounts. I had an infection of my foot that wouldn't quit, & tho now all cleaned up, thru the progressively more intensive medical testing I went thru, culminating in a heart catheterization, we discovered that I have 70, 80, & 90% occlusion of 3 of the 4 Coronary Arteries. The occlusions are long enough, that stents aren't an option, so I'm busy with interviewing Chest Crackers, & doing what I can to prep.
As I am unjabbed, & have a family history, the KungFlu or the Government Death Shot are not the culprits. I am just extremely lucky that we caught this now, because I am completely a-symptomatic.
At this point 37, I really don't know when I'll be able to put the time into revisiting this, but if you're still game, ping me again in about 6 months, & we'll take it from there. However, if I don't respond....I may be takin' the long, dirt nap! ;-)
Molon
No worries. Just wanted to make sure you were still engaged.
Take your time. Enjoy your family time as well!!
Hey Molon,
I cannot even begin to tell you how happy I am that you responded as you did. I fully appreciate your response, and am hopeful that you are in fact entirely sincere. I understand where you’re coming from. As well, in your zeal for candor and openess, I too will write succinctly. I wish we had a larger audience as well. I’m also quite glad that you used the word “bigot(ed)” for reasons that will emerge.
Allow me to do a few things here. First, to parse your statement for purposes of clarification and to address your statements. Secondly, to point out the implications of your own statements. Thirdly, to keep the focus of our exchange to the specific topic at hand. Fourth, to ask you some questions that I trust you will answer honestly, similarly to how I am addressing the points made in your response, although you have asked no direct questions as I will. I will index the questions for purposes of our discussion.
As well, I have read your responses to Renee Marie.
To start, let’s clarify, YOU are the one that brought the term “Jew/Jewish” to the discussion, not I. I quite specifically referred to Babylonian Talmudists. There is a notable difference.
On that note, …
A. Do you understand Zionism? (without looking it up)
B. Do you know who Theodor Herzl was? (without looking him up)
Which brings up the next point. Your implication is that you are an adherent to the Talmud. Well, are you? Do you consider yourself to be Talmudist?
You appear to be quite ignorant of what the Talmud actually preaches, which is why I ask. Nor do you preach what that Talmud does, you preach somewhat contrarily to the extent of even contradicting it.
As well, there are Jewish people that would make this case for me, many even prominent ones. One such person is Miko Peled, who wrote The General’s Son. Then of course there are others like Brother Nathaniel who lay things out more politically. They’re barely a drop in the bucket. Either way, I have hundreds if not over a thousand quotes catalogued, from the very ilk that I mention, that I’ll provide as necessary along the way in our discussion. You’ll be arguing with them, not me at that point.
To your statements …
To your third para, you may not be, but THEY are.
C. Are you claiming to be an adherent of the Talmud?
D. Are you aware of what the Talmud preaches in the context of your statements?
In your 4th para, you’re merely looking at the most superficial aspects of societal religious behavior, which to your point defines the vast majority of it, yet superficial it is. That’s why for instance there are Catholics that “don’t agree with everything that the Pope says,” which is the definition of Catholic, adhering to everything that the Pope says. Or muslims that don’t adhere to all that Koran says, same there. We could go on, but that’s largely a tangent.
On a side note, I would also ask why you define yourself as “Jewish.”
E. Is Jewish a race then? Or a religion?
I ask because there are implied accusations of “racism” on my part in your comments to Renee Marie.
In your 5th para, you said “our writings.”
F. What do YOU consider to be “our writings”? The Talmud?
As to friends of other religions, I have a bunch of “Jewish” friends. Some would take up my position in our discussion arduously. As with you, I do not let religious background define who my friends are or are not. Honestly and integrity are first and foremost there.
As I mentioned, as we go along, I will provide quotes for you, entirely verifiable ones, that argue contrarily what you’re saying, from “Jewish” people.
Your next several paras are relatively superficial standard-variety fluff in being honest. Good to know, but largely irrelevant to the context here.
I’ve known many muslims over the years given where I live. Not one has ever even given me a remote reason to believe that they’re hostile to Christians or our society here. No doubt there are some, but I’ve not run into them.
We are good friends with a muslim family whose father figure managed to escape the horrors of Palestine. Yet not before having witnessed up close the slicing in half of his best friend by Israeli soldiers on one of their typical “Judeo-Christian” binges. His recounting of it brings tears to my eyes.
They celebrate both Christmas and Ramadan, arguably the former more ardently. As a mere single example.
Let’s focus on your last two paras.
In the second to last you say “The only religion I know of that commands hate & even extortion, slavery, or the deaths of those they cannot convert, is islam.”
Again, I defer to the Talmud, which by implication you support. True, or not?
G. How does the Talmud classify non-Talmudists/Jews?
H. Which is worse, the statements about Christ and Christians in the Talmud, or the Koran?
Again, it may be good to educate yourself before making statements. I’m looking forward to the answers to these questions.
Finally, as to your last para, …
“Sure, there are bad Jews & also bad people of all faiths in our World, & if you really wish to cast bigoted aspersions, as there are far more Christians in the World vs Jews, statistically, there must be more "bad" Christians, than "bad" Jews!”
I’m not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. It’s not surprising that taylor.kathleen took issue with you there.
I will say in your favor that fundamentalist “christianity” certainly supports much of the Talmudic activity around the world due to its apostasy and heresy regarding the teachings of Christ & the Disciples. Nowhere in those writings are what’s going on today in the name of “Christianity” supported. Nowhere, despite their best attempts to do so.
However, one must also fully understand the Zionist underpinnings of that prior to assigning core blame for it.
To start, we really don’t have to look much further than the Middle East and Palestine for an epicenter of horrors. We’ll overlook the fact that almost all of the strife in the Middle Eastern Region is directly spawned by the nation of Israel.
But when one considers that extreme minority that “Jews,” again, your term for now, are, the imbalance is blatant.
It has accurately been said, “It is said that Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. But before the establishment of Israel, we had no enemies there.”
Closing question:
I. What was the first modern terrorist attack in the Middle East? (without looking it up)
For “modern,” let’s say post-WW II.
J. Who conducted that terrorist attack?
I will close by providing a quote by none other than Sir Winston Churchill. Remember, HE said it, not me.
“And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical."
"Zionism vs. Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People"
Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920, page 5
- Winston Churchill
Looking forward to your response and we’ll go from there. As well, I hope you’ll answer the questions, because they’re based upon what YOU said and there are significant implications re: YOUR statements in that matter.
We’ll begin to unwrap the true “bigotries” and “racism” once we get going.
I was with you until your last sentence. Disappointing.
Bigoted???? Give me a break.
Miss Renee, please explain your comment.....?
I do not grasp why people call someone a bigot, or a racist because someone has a different point of view, or understands something differently. It’s become rampant in societies throughout the world.
Thanks for your elucidation, Miss Renee.
Well, I rarely even feel the need to use either of those 2 words, but I pulled out one specific part of what 37 wrote, that seemed to me to fit that label, inserted it into my comment, & attempted to explain my reasoning.
In relation to 37's blanket accusation against my ancestors & those who adhere to my religion, I felt that was not a mere difference of opinion, but a bigoted statement that we are all that way.
My last blanket comparison was an attempt at a humorous use of the agreed upon, overused word: bigot.
I disagree with your understanding of what I wrote, but you are most certainly not a bigot for disagreeing with me. Lots of people disagree with me from time to time (just ask my wife), & I don't call them bigots, either.
Not to mention being careful where your treasure lies, 'cuz your heart's in the very same place.
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But a nobody who goes to a two-bit whore hustling the streets ends up famous on John's TV in their community.
Membership has its privileges, huh?
I knew nothing about Epstein...
...right
After reading the client list, and reading Dr Peter McCullough's latest post about You Tube wiping out safety content .....maybe google has more motives to censor....!
https://open.substack.com/pub/petermcculloughmd/p/youtube-is-wiping-safety-content?r=3c5c0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&comments=true
Could this panic and fear being felt by alleged perverts, be comparable to the panic and fear that was being sold back at the start the pandemic, aka the perversion of viruses, its 'cures' and the entire medical industry. It is interesting to think about, for sure.