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Kathleen Ryan's avatar

UK is going down fast. Probably doing the same thing here we just don’t see it.

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Matt07924's avatar

I am curious to know if Americans possessing guns inhibits the full force of Marxist control? Agreed the US is compromised and is no longer worth saving but I am guessing COVID controls would have been much worse if the government knew they would not be in a shooting war with people....

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Marlene's avatar

Depends which State you live in. Freedom of choice is not totally dead.

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Matt07924's avatar

Thank the Lord I moved out of Illinois. I am in a red state and appreciate the hands-off approach of the state govt. Illinois govt. is beyond hope.

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

Yes maybe one day we will look like Canada does now. It’s pathetic once the guns are freely given up.

Not all states are compromised as bad as Canada, Australia, UK. Just my opinion from what I see going on there. I follow a prepper who has people reporting in from other other countries. But then how do we really know unless we are experiencing it ourselves? Cannot trust media for anything.

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John's avatar

Do you know you can't even carry a jack knife in the UK?

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

I did not know that! Criminals can carry any weapon they choose. Funny choice to have to make to keep yourself safe. I’m licensed to carry a concealed firearm. Determined to keep myself safe.

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aux is playing's avatar

'I’m licensed to carry a concealed firearm. Determined to keep myself safe. '

You see, there's the problem, right there.

"Licensed", by whom? If your response is, "by the government," you'll need to assure yourself and anyone else, first of all, that the government can be trusted to continue to honor the granting of that license, whether for the stated licensed purpose or otherwise, then that a license granted and endorsed by an almost certainly criminal enterprise - that being the government - is an acceptable and fundamentally lawful and legitimate authorization, and should be accepted by a free people, and finally that the government has a verifiable and genuine endorsement by the governed, who have freely and voluntarily and without coercion chosen the government and then delegated to them the responsibility the government assume to possess.

It doesn't have to get taken too far back to see that the government, clearly, should not be delegated the authority to ratify licensing - of anything at all, actually.

Everything - EVERYTHING! - that is going on, whether that be COVID-19, lockdowns, mask mandates, mandating/forcing the shots, 9-11, East Palestine train explosion, Maui fires - you name it, everything - is the result of the people acquiescing to a body of criminals seizing authorities and responsibilities no-one decent has ever legitimately granted them.

So what do or should these licenses mean for us, as The People? We must crawl to the local crime lords for the permission to carry a firearm, the right and obligation which was supposedly enshrined in the Second Amendment? We must ask for the permission to travel and have granted a passport, when the freedom to roam is the most fundamental of human rights? When will we. The People, finally cease this obsequious servility towards these criminals, grovelling to them for the permission to do what is our inalienable right?

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

In any civilized society there are guidelines or rules we must abide by otherwise it would be a constant chaos. Yet it’s a fine balance between rules and totalitarian policies. Sadly it is within human nature to be evil. Those who do whatever they feel like with no moral compass.

But we all know this. I’m not an extremist.

It is all subjective. I make a decision everyday to live a decent life, be a non anti social person. I see so many that are anti social, stomp on others because of their beliefs. I consciously choose not to be those people. Yet not everyone makes the same choices as I do.

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aux is playing's avatar

There is a distinct difference between governance and government, and they are most definitely NOT the same thing. That being said, there is no pardon nor exoneration whatsoever for the criminals that occupy government and those who lead the government bureaucracies. They - and their globocap-oiler-banker-owner-investor bosses - are criminals, and most assuredly the worst kind imaginable.

"In any civilized society there are guidelines or rules we must abide by otherwise it would be a constant chaos."

This is not in question, and I did not say anything that challenges this notion. Be that as it may, how and in what way does the incumbent or any future administration inserted through the present system evidence a commitment to responsible governance and a wider aspiration toward the advancement of civilization when they arrive at the conclusion of nation-wide Democide as the primary policy, and then assiduously and comprehensively apply themselves at its achievement?

"Those who do whatever they feel like with no moral compass."

Name one single healthy (in mind and body), rational, ordinary person who you have known or know about that does this, and who suffers (or rather, makes their fellow suffer) their lack of moral compass. I'll spare you the futile exercise: ordinary, general public, reasonably socialized people don't do whatever they feel like and, anyway, would not be allowed to by their fellows, and they all know this. Have you ever felt the need to do such evil or willed such chaos on others? I doubt it. It's neither your government's "laws" and "rules", nor even your god's that stays your hand. It's your own decency, and the predominantly decent people around you and in your community and their unstated willingness to make the small compromises in order that the entire community benefits from the sacrifice that keeps us all self-policed and safe.

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

I think you have honed or marinated your thoughts for a very long time. You also like to be “right”. Rightness on everything is a disease also in society. Sadly no pills that fix that.

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aux is playing's avatar

Wrong! :-) hehe, only kidding.

Please don't resort to the ad hominem fallacy. There's no way for you to ever verify this, which is saddening to me, but I am normally humble to a fault. Since January 2020, however, my formerly-held worldview has been crushed, which is traumatic in itself, but that event did afford me much needed and long-overdue clarity. On the other hand it also made me militantly intolerant towards the people's toleration of governments and the breath-taking crimes governments commit in our name.

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John's avatar

Yep.

An American traveling in Northern Ireland, UK was having a drink at a pub with his wife during the day.

Three Loyalist tough guys jumped him in front of his wife, on camera in living color and beat him mercilessly.

When they broke his leg, he knew his life was in danger. So he pulled out all he had, a jack knife, and cut them off of him.

He was charged with attempted murder and possession of a deadly weapon .

Even though the assault was unprovoked and on video, they were never charged.

After hiring a lawyer and having to fly back for trial with a broken leg, he was eventually set free.

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

So traveling is not what it used to be either. If one were to get a plant ticket to any destination it’s important to know how the laws are changing . But this is happening in America now. If you are a white Christian you are a suspected domestic terrorist. Now who would have thought that? They have changed all of the rules at will. Corrupted judicial system now. Its like a children’s game of making things up then punishing people for the made up things. If you carry a licensed gun that you used to defend your life you will be subjected to endless court proceedings by loony radical leftist judges.

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Matt07924's avatar

This is how Marxism works....subversion and turning society upside down. No better way to do that than to give criminals a free pass to assault and kill. This is why it is SO important to not talk to the police after a shooting (they are NOT your friends) and to retain legal services. In fact, the best thing to do is not brandish or use your handgun unless you are right there at the doorway to death. Sad but true. AND this applies even in your very own home. Just look at Rittenhouse's experience in Wisconsin. He was tried and convicted by the Marxist media and the fact that he is white (looks white) did not help his case.

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SoMplsboy's avatar

In Straya, mace ( pepper spray) is also illegal unless 'you' are law enforcement.

Complained relentlessly to my local MP who was ex Victorian police ( and supportive) as he had trained with the LA SWAT team and understood threat de-escalation. Despite all the efforts, the morons in charge would not even have a hearing to discuss. The street crims know that nobody has any back-up and they 'operate' with full impunity. Idiotic country!

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aux is playing's avatar

"Complained relentlessly to my local MP ..."

I'll shamelessly plug my own comment above, conceitedness notwithstanding.

"Our" MPs are not ours at all. They always were, are now, and will only ever be theirs - the globocap-oiler-banker-owner-investors. They are all the most despicable and reprehensible criminals. We are cutting our own throats by going to ask them, and ask for their permission for anything.

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

A long time ago early on in my career a very smart CEO (yes there are some) once said “ The mind will absorb only what the ass can endure “. I try to keep that in mind when I comment. Tedium is not contagious.

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Jeannette Patten's avatar

We won't be giving up our guns in Canada.

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Wolfhound77's avatar

The answer seems to be no. There have been more than enough abuses to warrant using them and the destruction of America continues unabated without a single person getting off the couch. I think it's going to take cable TV going out indefinitely to get any rise out of them.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Contrary to popular belief and media psyop, Australians have quite high levels of firearm ownership even in cities. There is also no national firearms register. Ranges are full every weekend. Unfortunately you cannot shoot your way out of an information war and we just aren't violent people which is why covid took everyone by surprise.

Edit: don't make me post the link!

https://www.koat.com/article/albuquerque-gun-ban-new-mexico-governor-order/45059178

Here's another one for the psyopped: https://nypost.com/2023/09/07/liberty-safe-under-fire-for-giving-fbi-access-to-alleged-capitol-rioters-firearms/

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Corinne Wilder's avatar

Our country is worth saving. We have something unique that other countries do not have. Like my family before me I will fight. You must treasure freedom to have the passion to preserve it. I will align myself with people like ColonelRETJohn. A leader with skills. At times he is low key and unassuming but have to doubt this is a very bright man who knows the art of war. We lack leaders in this country. People want attention yet are shallow minded. (Ok, just my opinion, don’t attack me).

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Matt07924's avatar

The only thing that is unique, in my opinion, is the Bill of Rights which has been whittled down to nothing. 1st amendment is under attack and 2nd amendment is also under attack. 4th amendment is gone - ask Snowden about that one. 5th amendment is nearly gone..thanks to Scalia. 6th, 7th, and 8th amendments are gone - justice system is woke and dysfunctional and 10th amendment has been trampled more times than we can count. So, I ask you what is unique at this point?

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Dukes Gixer's avatar

It IS the same “there”. We’re ALL going down together. The “WEST” is finished.

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Original Lisa's avatar

Hopefully a better way will blossom from the ash heap. 🙏

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John's avatar

Listen to the tide slowly turning/wash all our heartaches away/We're part of the fire that is burning/ From the ashes we can build a better day---Moody Blues, The Story in Your Eyes

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Original Lisa's avatar

👍 💃🎼

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Matt07924's avatar

The better way is to NOT centralize - keep everything local. Marxism thrives under central control or top down type of governance. The US govt. is an excellent example of the perniciousness of governance - Fascist Oligarchic Marxist domination.

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aux is playing's avatar

Yeah, if we keep recognizing the unsanctioned, unlawful authority of the government, and while we keep delegating our own authority and responsibilities of decision making to them, we're toast.

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